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The point is, there shouldn't be offense given at all. People have been using this disparaging terminology for years and they continue to do so because biased authors wrote articles demeaning other playstyles that they didn't like by coming up with these derogatory terms. Like somehow the fact...

In my opinion it's because a lot of folks here use the same negatively charged terminology that the original authors used. Whether they have the same sense of superiority and look down on traditional play, I'd don't know for sure. I have suspicions about a few. If they acknowledge that the...

No. A LARP is very different from Cops and Robbers that elementary school kids play. RPGs are not inherently childish. Games with rules are not inherently childish. Cops and Robbers is just a bunch of kids running around saying, "I got you!" "No you didn't!" "Yes I did! I pointed in your...

I agree with this. He has a childlike sense of wonder. He has a childish sense of wonder. Only one of those sounds negative. "Childish" is generally used to mean immaturity, rather than the better things from childhood. "Childlike" is generally used to mean an adult having good qualities...

Which is fair. I'm not at all ashamed of my playstyle or playing D&D. However, that does not mean that it's okay to disparage what I do or that I shouldn't push back at such disparagement.

That's what the disparaging comments about playstyles are.

Yeah. I've seen disparagement from the traditional players as well. I can say that I have seen much more from the narrative folks, though. Also, it happening on both sides doesn't really excuse the terminology being used in that article. It should stop from all directions, not be tolerated...

No. It really depends on what you are doing. Pretend cops and robbers, sure. That's childish. RPGs? No. That's not inherently childish. Pretend roleplaying at work to learn a process? Also not childish. When you are calling something that is not childish, childish, that's disparaging...

I've had people on this site tell me that if I would only try the narrative style of play, I would understand why it's so much better.

I don't see it as more mature to accept disparaging comments just because people refuse to stop using them. You've apparently become acclimated to it, but I'm not going to just accept them. It's on the people who use those terms to learn to stop using them and use more neutral terminology instead.

"the term “childish play” is not intended to be disparaging. I do not think that playing in a childish manner is a shameful activity. If you do, you might need help, because you’re criticizing children being childish. The name comes, of course, from the common role-adoption game that children...

Not RPGing, traditional and simulationist play. Other styles don't get the same treatment. Traditional play is "playing to find out what's in the DM's notes" or "Princess play," but narrative play isn't "Being overly concerned about character" or "children's story hour." You can tell from the...

The original people who coined those terms were also using them in a derogatory manner. I guess it's okay to use derogatory terms if you aren't the ones who made them up. That's not something that I've ever heard is okay, but since so many people here are arguing just that, it must be true...

You have completely misunderstood. Those are the same. The implication is childishness and has nothing to do with gender. Cops and Robbers play would also be disparaging. Jesus guys. Get off the gender thing already.

Ahh, so if someone uses racial slurs in an article, but says that it's not disparaging, it isn't? I don't think so. He made the claim, but still used derogatory terminology when he didn't have to. The words used don't cease to be disparaging just because he says that. And it would be the same...

Or else he could use a non-disparaging term like Roleplaying Childhood Heroes. He chose not to, which makes what he has to say suspect. And no, your musings are inaccurate, at least when it comes to me. I have no such hang-ups.

Yep. There's a middle ground.

He is using disparaging terminology for that style of play, which makes the motive suspect. If he wanted his motive to be taken at face value, he'd have used non-disparaging terms.

That's why you're under the mistaken impression that it's like a train wreck/broken record. Like a working record, maybe, but not a broken one, and certainly not a train wreck.

Not one person that I've seen has said that it's illegitimate. In fact, the opposite has been said many, many, MANY times by various people. Saying that it's not for us and saying why, isn't saying that it's illegitimate.