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the ones I saw on Noble Knight were $275 and $350, although I know that outfit doesn't always have a good grasp on what prices for old D&D stuff should be. I have a copy of the D&D/Cthulhu book in very good condition... except... I wrote my name in it. Damn 20 year old me...

the people who ran TSR after him knew that too.....

I've noticed that too, yet.... a lot of it seems to be discussion on older editions vs. 5E, so it's debatable where they belong....

the only ones I can recall seeing were the Thieves' World one (which one of our DMs actually ran us in for a few adventures) and Nyambe...

I pop into this thread every couple of weeks, usually thinking "Dear God, what did NuTSR do now...."

Definitely. D&D first came out in the mid 70s, when LOTR was undergoing a boom in popularity, ERB and REH novels were big sellers....

my gaming was all in the 1E and 2E years as well. Most of my PCs lived, but I definitely lost a few of them to assorted reasons... 1E had a lot of notorious 'save or die' things....

there was a Dragon article long ago that had a good description of the rakshasa, statting out different types of them and including their leader (whose name I forget) who seemed to be up there with demon princes in terms of power. Rakshasas seem like they should be the big bads of this setting...

that was my first thought as well... remove the 'save or die' and level drain, and the module becomes a lot less deadly. You could probably replace the bodak with something tougher, but not sure what you do with the vampiress....

Um.... I think you missed part of the conversation. I was talking about how my group way back in 1E days rolled up PCs using '3d6 in order' just as an experiment to see what we'd come up with. We didn't use them, it was just a test to see what would happen.

I never owned/read those two, but I have the Holmes rulebook... and it seems to be written very clearly and understandable. But, of course, it only goes to level 3...

well, the experiment was under 1E rules, so all those minimums applied. I suppose it was good that it was just an experiment and not some DM who insisted on '3d6 in order'.....

I don't remember any DM ever in any of the groups I was around going that extreme either. The most common chargen method I saw was 'roll 3d6 6 times, rearrange to suit.' Of course, lots of players wanted to play a particular class, and rather than cheat, it was generally 'roll up lotsa PCs'...

another common house rule was 'max hp at first level'. One reason I liked playing rangers in 1E....

yeah, this thread is devolving into another edition bashing one.... I always felt lucky that I got into D&D when I was 20.... early enough that I was in there when it was all pretty new (1E days), but old enough to be out of the 'awkward child/teen' era. As for answering the question of 'how...

I don't remember out and out cheating, but I remember a lot of 'rolling up lotsa PCs.' One really common thing was not rolling '3d6 in order', but 'rolling 3d6 6 times, and rearrange them as you please.' Even back in those olden days, you had players who liked particular classes, and letting...

I got into D&D during the 1E era, and enjoyed it immensely, but... yeah, this. 1E was the third iteration of the game, and it wasn't very coherent. My initial and biggest disappointment with 2E was that it wasn't a 'cleaned up and coherent' version of 1E. But you always gotta remember that 1E...

I grew up in a tiny MT town, and didn't discover D&D until I went to college in a bigger (but still rather small) town. All of my gaming years were in 1E and 2E years, and pretty much ended around 1990. My previous job kept me moving around a lot, so I found it impossible to get back into...

yeah, I was always pretty sure the driving force behind OA was "you know, samurai and ninjas are pretty neat... let's make rules for them!"

did the doombat from the 1E FF ever appear anywhere after that? I always liked this monstrous powerful bat that could bite, whip you with it's tail, and emit a godawful sonic shriek. Plus, it was big enough to be ridden. I put doombats in quite a few places in my campaign worlds....