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Hey, I know what would be great! Let's slow down play with a bunch of low stakes rolls and push off the interesting bits till next week! After all, we can't appreciate exciting play without dull as dishwater play!

But the PC could know that it's an easy climb (narrated accordingly, and any DC or TN set accordingly, etc.) or they could know it's a difficult climb (narrated accordingly, and any DC or TN set accordingly, etc.). The PC will know whatever the GM has decided. Oh, I agree that Q&A is...

I'm guessing that most of us would be able to do those things just as well as we'd be able to negotiate many life or death matters. Yes, but that's just an opinion. It's a preference. Other people have other preferences. I don't care whether mechanics are necessary... I like playing a game...

Okay... I always give out DCs or Target Numbers in games that use them. Again, I want the player informed. I see no reason to withhold that information other than keeping them less informed. Aside from that, training in climbing is an understandable trait that may matter. I was kind of...

Matter for who? The reason I am asking is just to get examples of the bolded, and then to look at how that impacts play. But this is all just for the sake of discussion. It only matters for that purpose, unless someone takes away something new from the discussion. Yes, this is definitely...

I’m not. I’m pointing out that there are other reasons and those are the ones worth examining. They matter to everyone. So, let’s talk about other factors. No one has responded to this yet so please look at the two descriptions below. (1) A character faces a cliff that he needs to climb. The...

What game do you know that says to portray an inconsistent world? Or implausible events? Who in this thread has advocated for that? Sure... but looking at a cliff stumps him! Yay realism!

Yes, absolutely! That's my point. Realism isn't really the cause... because as the author of the situation, a GM can select whatever realistic conditions they want. So, when the character is facing the cliff face that he's going to climb... the GM can tell the player the relevant information...

I'm not holding anyone to any standard. You're focuing on the wrong thing. I really don't care if people don't want to ever risk losing control of their character during play. I absolutely understand that preference and there's nothing wrong with it. It is just odd when coupled with all these...

We’re not disagreeing, Micah. Good lord.

What makes it contradictory is all the appeals to realism in many other ways, but then saying “I don’t care about realism, this is a game and I’m going to control my character at all times no matter what”. Again… there’s nothing wrong with the preference. I don’t blame anyone for feeling that...

Sure. I’m only explaining my concerns about it. I don’t ask anyone to share those concerns, although I think it’s good for people to at least consider them. And yes, if things are working for you and your group, then keep doing what you’re doing. If everyone is on the same page, then...

Well, that’s subjective. I imagine that an expert climber and someone like me who can barely climb out of bed would have different levels of verisimilitude in this regard. Also, telling someone “you can see that the rock looks stable and there are many handholds, this won’t be a difficult climb...

Sure, absolutely. And sometimes, they freeze up or hide or otherwise flinch or hesitate when they never have before. This stuff happens. The mind is powerful, and fear and other emotions can be powerful. They also influence us physically... so it's not purely mental or emotional as you're...

Sure, the frequency of this stuff will matter how strong the feelings are about it. Well, it's a lampshade because setting aside the fictional reason for a moment, as a player, what's happening is loss of control of the character's emotions or actions. That's what people are complaining about...

I think things like dragon fear and the charmed condition are examples that prove otherwise. Yes, they mostly have the lampshade of "magic" but they are still dictating the character's internal feeling.

For most folks, I wouldn't expect the tribal aspect to matter at all.

I think there is plenty in there that aligns with your thinking, absolutely. Where I think the major conflict is seems to be your concern about setting versus the PA's concern about game. It is very much about game and playability. There are bits in most sections that I think have at least a...

What about information that the characters could conceivably have, if the GM chooses to share it? Oh, I don't think this stuff belongs in every game. It really depends on the point of play and the genre and so on.

But the lack of courage is caused by something external. And it may be an involuntary response. Now... some people don't want that in a game. That's fine. I get it. I don't think it belongs in every game. But it makes appeals to how the real world works less convincing. I agree. The...