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    WotC Talks OGL... Again! Draft Coming Jan 20th With Feedback Survey; v1 De-Auth Still On

    Bunnies only. (Vorpal blades come from Lewis Carroll's Jabberwocky.)
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    WotC Talks OGL... Again! Draft Coming Jan 20th With Feedback Survey; v1 De-Auth Still On

    Do we really think Universal, Warner Brothers, or Walt Disney Pictures is going to use the freaking OGL if they want to produce a movie with some or all of these elements? Come on, now.
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    WotC Talks OGL... Again! Draft Coming Jan 20th With Feedback Survey; v1 De-Auth Still On

    Not putting them aside, the effort to transform the Age of Empire into something socially progressive was tortured.
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    WotC Talks OGL... Again! Draft Coming Jan 20th With Feedback Survey; v1 De-Auth Still On

    Yeah, it was OA and then a bunch of d20 Rokugan supplements (Creatures, Magic, etc.).
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    WotC Talks OGL... Again! Draft Coming Jan 20th With Feedback Survey; v1 De-Auth Still On

    Call of Cthulhu d20, Legend of the Five Rings d20, 7th Sea d20...
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    WotC Talks OGL... Again! Draft Coming Jan 20th With Feedback Survey; v1 De-Auth Still On

    Perhaps we're talking past each other, or perhaps we agree and yet we keep talking. :D Wizards could release an OGL 1.0b that is exactly like OGL 1.0a with the word "irrevocable" added. We agree they should. There would be no need to "revoke" or "deauthorize" 1.0a. Publishers could continue to...
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    WotC Talks OGL... Again! Draft Coming Jan 20th With Feedback Survey; v1 De-Auth Still On

    They can absolutely create a stronger license, and everyone encourages them to do so. Notably, they can do this without "revoking" or "deauthorizing" the existing license.
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    WotC Talks OGL... Again! Draft Coming Jan 20th With Feedback Survey; v1 De-Auth Still On

    The year is 2033 and Wizards has decided it's time for OGL 3. TTRPG Community: You said OGL 2 is perpetual and irrevocable! Wizards of the Coast: Yeah, well, I said that about OGL 1, didn't I? TTRPG Community: But we negotiated and you added the Pinky Promise clause to the agreement! Wizards of...
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    WotC Talks OGL... Again! Draft Coming Jan 20th With Feedback Survey; v1 De-Auth Still On

    You continue to struggle with a really basic logic error. If Wizards can violate the terms of its current agreement at will, why should anyone care about the terms of the next agreement they're offering?
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    WotC Talks OGL... Again! Draft Coming Jan 20th With Feedback Survey; v1 De-Auth Still On

    I'm astonished at your eagerness to bargain away other people's contractual rights.
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    WotC Talks OGL... Again! Draft Coming Jan 20th With Feedback Survey; v1 De-Auth Still On

    That's how contracts work. That's why they're valuable--you don't have to imagine a million different future contingencies that might incline the parties to change their terms. You have the rights and obligations as defined in the contract instead.
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    WotC Talks OGL... Again! Draft Coming Jan 20th With Feedback Survey; v1 De-Auth Still On

    And if there is something preventing a Willow RPG, it would also apply to any 3PP. In this scenario, Disney is no different from any other third-party publisher. Unless @FormerLurker is imagining market-cap limitations in the license, or something. All this aside, they've said they have two...
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    Hello, I am lawyer with a PSA: almost everyone is wrong about the OGL and SRD. Clearing up confusion.

    Don't shoot the messenger! Though it's amusing to imagine the conversation: Ryan Dancey: Hey, what the hell is "potation"? Is that a typo? We just released this into the wild! Brian Lewis (squinting at text): Eh, no, not a typo. Legal term of art. Don't worry about it.
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    WotC Talks OGL... Again! Draft Coming Jan 20th With Feedback Survey; v1 De-Auth Still On

    So what do you think the poison pill is going to be? Because none of the revised terms they've released in the last couple of "updates" will prevent that.
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    WotC Talks OGL... Again! Draft Coming Jan 20th With Feedback Survey; v1 De-Auth Still On

    Did they drop revocation and deauthorization? No? Then they haven't dropped anything. As long as they maintain that they can unilaterally break a twenty-year-old agreement, why should anyone care what they include or exclude from their next agreement? Mind you, in all the thousands of words...
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    Hello, I am lawyer with a PSA: almost everyone is wrong about the OGL and SRD. Clearing up confusion.

    ETA: In answer to the "potation" question. I should have quoted.
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    Hello, I am lawyer with a PSA: almost everyone is wrong about the OGL and SRD. Clearing up confusion.

    I think this is the argument you're referring to, but I honestly don't think I'm tracking. How much work is "standing" doing in your first sentence? Is the idea that previous acceptances of the offer would be unaffected by revocation of the "standing offer"? ETA: Reading your #2,101 in THIS...
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    Hello, I am lawyer with a PSA: almost everyone is wrong about the OGL and SRD. Clearing up confusion.

    To be clear, I don't know where they find this power to "deauthorize" either, and I certainly don't see where they can "deauthorize" it for the purposes of some works but not others. But this does seem to be what they've latched onto, as distinct from "revocation" of the license.
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