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I never asked how Ravenloft should be updated. That came up in off-topic discussion but it wasn't why I started this thread. And here we are with that misunderstanding again ... No, I'm quite sure that's not what I asked. I was looking for each person's unique opinion on what they though the...

Ha! Those questions aren't related to DDI, but it would sure be nice if someone within WotC could actually show various Hasbro decision-makers that M.C. Esher drawings are more easily navigated than their website. I understand the "committee" problem, but the current kludge has to be hurting...

When you don't like something, less is usually better, ceteris paribus. Now you've wandered very far from the original point of this thread. Without my getting into it in depth let's just say I very strongly disagree with you on this one. But like I said - this is off topic. You can PM or email...

1. They're bad tools. It's like using a SuperSoaker to put screws in drywall. 2. I'm just talking about what I would do here. I really have no idea what gave you the impression I was trying to forbid your WrongBadFun. Do whatever you want man. <philosophical tangent> That's right; but I never...

And I'm getting the impression that you somehow think that changing the number of moons in the sky, or suddenly switching the order of the seasons, is somehow supposed to instill a feeling of gothic horror in the PCs. The only thing I see it instilling is nonplussed confusion. 98% of the time...

Nothing "upsetting", but certainly not to my taste. Namely I object to the consequences of a Darklord's death being pure DM fiat. Is the Domain absorbed, disappeared, new Darklord appears? Whatever man, could be anything. Maybe you get spun off into the Abyss, huh? It really drains the point...

Blech. Pretty much everything in gonzoron's last post is a turn-off for me. Artificiality sure is unique, but so is puke-flavored ice cream. I like how Remalthis summed it up as (to paraphrase), "But for the Dark Powers, Ravenloft would exist as a normal D&D world." A few thoughts though, as...

These are absolutely two things I would "fix" if I get the opportunity to run a 4E Ravenloft campaign. The first problem especially really drove home the point that "Ravenloft exists because the Darklords exist; you're just along for the ride." There were (apparently) opportunities for the PCs...

Huh. I hadn't realized that. "Must be able to attack", (Flanking, p. 285). I guess I had misread that as only someone who "threatens" with melee or close attacks as producing a flank, but I guess that's a personal holdover from 3E. Learn new things every day ...

I really like the Plot Points, especially how they're earned. Reminds me of Burning Wheel's artha. I'm much more "eh" on the wounds. I see what you're trying to do, but I'd probably just apply the penalty to all rolls until they're Healed. I go for grittier gaming and my solution to avoiding...

Given the OP's goals, I'd say 'No' to that. The whole point his changing just the monster's HP is that you can now have more monsters on the field at once. If you reduce the PC's HP they'll have to run away from fights like that. Scaling down the HP on both sides of the equation leaves the...

I've noted on occasion that 4E combat is more predictable/less "swingy" than 3E combat was. The removal of many "Save or Die" effects are of course a big part of that, but the grind is the other half of the apple. The DM can judge with a higher level of certainty how tough a given combat will be...

Yeah, but the problem arises when the PC's come to believe it's "All struggle, no cake." There needs to be some cake (see below). I use terms "Insanity" and "Madness" to generally capture the mindsets of the people who succumb to the horror of living in Ravenloft. I prefer to use terms like...

Wow, really great discussion. Let's see if I can gather together a consensus on the proper theme for an RL Campaign ... Discovery/Secrecy: Moniker, wolfkook and gonzoron all touched on the thought that the nature of Ravenloft is something that should start "hidden" and then be discovered...

My attempt to answer the question (please improve on this or just suggest somthing better): I think what Ravenloft PCs hope for is that they will achieve something great without going mad in the process. The purpose or desire of the Mists is to instill horror, and so people have to find a way...

Ravenloft Campaigns: What’s the meta-point? I would like to discuss how to run a Ravenloft campaign using 4E rules and cosmology, but before we get to the actual rule proposals I would like to discuss why PCs play in a Ravenloft campaign (rather than Core D&D). What’s the story being told...

I like it. Simple arithmetic is still simple. I can do it in my head, so I'm not "suffering" anything for having more HP and damage. And there are benefits: 1) More predictable combat (for the DM). It's more grindy than 3E but also less swingy. There's a tradeoff between those two variables...

You do realize we are discussing the term "storytelling", right?

No, you really can't. I think you misunderstood what I was saying though. My argument is that the active party cannot let the dice decide a moral outcome. The other people at the table get to "see what happens" by watching him make that decision, but the particular player who makes the decision...

Yup. As I understand the word the act of telling a story requires active and passive parties with the flow of information passing in one direction only. This is an accurate description of movies, TV shows, books, plays and verbally spoken tales (inclusive). RPGs are obviously different from...