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I said nutcracker because I think a construct that does more than just "smash with heavy fists" would be fun.

I agree! No Shadow of the Colossus for us! :lol:

Tough choice, But this is my first time doing one of these so I went with my creature preference: Fey.

I must say, the idea is a good one but, I too am a little saddened by the fact it seems to be shaping up to another Mind Flayer. We should just do our own here (although really, I guess we do).

Thank-you Shade and thank-you Mortis. :) Perfect solution! Especially if when they age, their colour gets less and less like a real Gold Dragon. That way, the older dragon has an even better tool to allay suspicions anyone might have. So, that tallies up to - rage, stoneskin, nondectection...

Oh absolutely, there are plenty of ways for this dragon to hide its alignment and really, any of them will do the job. I just thought, rather than having "no alignment" with undetectable alignment, the dragon would be able to fool others into thinking it actually had a Lawful Good alignment...

I say just give it the direction sense, I mean.. any character only needs 5 ranks in Survival to be able to find North automatically. Really, that's not much of an ability - perhaps we could give it both? A direction sense and a racial bonus to Survival checks? possibly just a situational bonus...

What if instead of just regular "catching on fire" that does 1d6 per round, the feat deals xd6 per round (where x equals the level of the spell used)?

If it helps, this is the Pyro feat: PYRO [General] Your good at lighting objects and opponents on fire. Benefit: If you set something or someone on fire by any means (alchemist's fire, for example), the flames do an extra 1 point of damage per die, and the Reflex save DC to extinguish the...

DamionW: I think your right.. one level higher seems fine so I changed it. I built it with the Pyro feat in mind actually, I thought it would be a good step up that would make Pyro a little more attractive to take, since its benefits are pretty much set in stone and after a while it just...

IGNITE SPELL [Metamagic] Your fire spells last for just a split-second longer, giving them the opportunity to set fire to all combustibles in their path. Prerequisite: Pyro (feat from Song & Silence) Benefit: This metamagic feat can only be applied to spells with the [Fire] descriptor...

Do I look like the kind of person who would joke? :lol: Seriously though, one of my players has a character who is slowly becoming very "Shaman-esque" and this looks like a great package to start with. I'll let you know

Well I like it! ..and that munching sound you hear is me cannibalizing it for my own use... :D

Right, I guess I was just confirming that for my own sake.:D Rage as a spell-like ability fits the bill perfectly I think, as does the Earth subtype. I love the higher Natural Armour Bonus idea. From Shade's report on pyrite I think the dragon's description should include how only the younger...

Wasn't there a mention somewhere that one of the Pyrite Dragon's breath weapons produced a glitterdust effect? Although, I suppose that would count as a "disorienting" effect. I like CN better than CE, I don't picture these dragons as wholly evil, just spoiled and maybe even a little bratty (I...

Nice writing Shade! It might be just me, but I'm thinking that all Rock Dragons should have, if not oversized, prominent claws since they deal with rock or live near rock or what have you. Especially if we pick up on the burrow speed idea that someone mentioned earlier in the thread.

Now see, I didn't know that - time to re-read my MM I think!:lol: If that's the case then I say Bluff, Hide and Move Silently (those two should always come in a pair)

Well.. Bluff seems to be a logical choice, and perhaps Sense Motive to balance it. Or maybe Diplomacy (since it seems to be shaping into a social type Dragon). On the other hand, perhaps its "trickery" aspect is sufficiently covered by its abilities and we want to take it into a new direction...

I like giving the top end Dragons the domain spells only. I do like the idea of Trickery spells though so perhaps we should focus on those when determining spell-like abilities.

I'm in! What's next then?