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  1. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    First, CR 20 is just the extreme example. Running into stuff that can kill you doesn't have to mean CR 20. If could be 8, 10, 12 or whatever. How often that happens is at a minimum several times a campaign, because wandering monster tables don't care about PC level. Beyond that, it depends...
  2. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Retcon =/= do in the moment. They will never be close to the same, no matter how often you repeat that they are not really that different.
  3. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    You know very well that the context is implausible as far as realism goes. It's implausible that you really didn't understand that. Your argument is disingenuous.
  4. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Eh, no. Weak justification after the fact doesn't mean that they went looking for herbs during that trip. They decided that they wanted herbs for something in the present and are asking to retcon in herb searching. That is far different than roleplaying out herb searching. They are two very...
  5. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    The correct interpretation is that the players control what happens. That statement gives the players full veto power on scenes.
  6. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    That doesn't at all mean haggling happens unless the players say otherwise. In fact, it means the exact opposite of that. The merchant gives the price. He is not now going to start haggling himself down or try haggling the players up. If the players decide to pay the price, no haggling ever...
  7. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    How does that change anything? If the repair is inadequate, get a new repair man. If there is no new repairman to be found, you can either learn how to do it yourself, pay the repair man to screw up some more, or fire him and go bowling instead. Personally, I'm not going to pay a repair man...
  8. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I'd rather not have a repairman at all than have one that is inadequate. I have better things to do than pay repair men to fail to do their job.
  9. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Except that didn't solve it. I already covered why what you do can't be the same as what we do. We still will have done more.
  10. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    That rule would dictate that some or all the implausibility happens, but it wouldn't stop or reduce the implausibility of every roll resulting in something interesting.
  11. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I don't recall anyone saying that. A lot of us here have said that our sandbox play is player driven, but that's a far cry from denying DM driven play isn't a thing outside of DL-ish play.
  12. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Data set? It's a fact that in my game and in many other games I've played in, 3 weeks have passed with nothing terribly interesting happening. It happens. In some 3 week periods some interesting stuff will happen. In other 3 week periods a lot of interesting stuff will happen. In yet more...
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  14. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Also no it isn't. Why? Because what is the most important thing will vary table to table, person to person. It's not the most important thing to you, but it is the most important thing to @Lanefan.
  15. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    What matters to you isn't what matters to others, and vice versa. Just because you value those things and you view those as the only way for characters to change, doesn't mean other do or that there aren't other ways to change the character. No. The player isn't expected to anything except...
  16. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    You don't, because you can't. Oh, you can skip past walking somewhere, but you can't go off into the trees to look for herbs the way we can, because you didn't show up at the next place with herbs you got during the trip, or maybe failed to get. Same with haggling and many other details...
  17. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Yeah. I know. Most often it's with mom and pop vendors. You won't for example, be able to walk into Target and haggle any prices down. Even then there are exceptions. I've picked up damage goods that were still serviceable and talked store managers into discounts ranging from 10% to 50%...
  18. Maxperson

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Yes and no. Yes they encounter kings, monsters, and situations of note at FAR greater rates than the average Joe. In that regard chance is skewed tremendously. However, that doesn't mean that they don't haggle with merchants, walk for weeks down roads with no interesting encounters, etc. It...
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