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But why not combine the two? What if your merchants-and-smiths need to go fight a dragon guarding a vein of rare ore, which will make the whole group rich? What if your fighters-and-wizards need to introduce political instability, but are unable to do so with violent means - so they decide to...

It's sentiments like this that have made me move away from D&D. What if the group - the entire group - wants to play a group of merchants and smiths, working out of a small town? Now all those things you claim are just "flavor" are important. Why can't the game support that, and the...

That's an awesome stance to hold. Have you ever looked at a blank page before, with the intent of writing something fictional? It can take awhile before anything forms on that page. A long while. Someone who has very little experience with fantasy, who walks into this game as a young teenager...

See, now, I can understand the comment regarding effectiveness. But boring? The player was using the staff instead of spells. It wasn't that he ran out of spells, and resorted to the staff - it was his weapon of choice. If you choose to do it, how is that boring, exactly?

Fixed that for you.

I doubt that. But there's really only one way to find out, and that's to wait and see how things with 4e pan out, in the future. So everything is cliche. Wow, that's original. Awesome. I'm sure that won't get boring ever.

After playing WoW for an extended period, I often find myself thinking about things in WoW terms. Of course, the same thing happened with pokemon (which I played quite heavily for a couple months, around this time last year) - and there's a funny and topical story there, too. I was playing a...

"If you don't want all combat all the time, make it up yourself." Yep, that's a great way to get me into a game... I always thought that one of the marvellous advantages of tabletop RPGs was that things made some amount of sense. It's not like WoW, where things... tend to just sort of happen...

Mountain's Endurance reads: "When you spend a healing surge, ..." Belt of Vigor does not - it simply increases your healing surge value, straight-up, no conditions. That would seem to be the only difference. At first, I thought it meant that ME did not improve healing granted by others'...

Of the 24 people I regularly game with, only myself, the other DM for one of my groups, my girlfriend, and my father visit EN World. Of us, only I read and post with any regularity; the other three are registered, but don't visit very often, if at all anymore.

Some rather nifty work, there. I'm not really sure I understand what's going on with those tables, but it looks like it took a long time... Not the point of the thread. It's an examination of potential damage output, not asking whether the classes are balanced or not.

Surge scales by level, by the way. My experiences thus far: pretty much any player who knows about the existence of heroic surge and its availability in a game will make attempts to take it as early as humanly possible. Windfall - I don't know, I haven't actually run or played in a game that...

Duly noted, but I'm not terribly concerned about that. What makes you say that? Not terribly concerned about that. Allowing multiple attacks as part of a normal attack action seems ludicrous to me. I'm not. I'm asking what mechanically makes the statement true. Why is it the case, from a...

Ah. Sorry, when you referred to it being "teh awesome" with quotes and all, I sort of assumed sarcasm... Carry on.

Sarcasm? Just for the record, I wasn't being sarcastic.

Nah, that's the category. It sort of runs on into the thread title. Nope.

This is the kind of thing that is good to know. But this brings about the question - why is the game stacked in the PCs' favor? What makes that so? Fair enough.

The d20 would be gone. In its stead, you would use 3d6. Everything would follow the bell curve. The removal of classes as straight-jackets. Classes are more like templates, skill-package-esque things than actual things you progress in. Your class determines what class features are available...

...and now I'm just trying to figure out what you are trying to say. The GSL has nothing to do with it?

Okay - but why? But they're usually small numbers, so I don't imagine that the added math is going to cause too much of a problem, on a general scale.