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My understanding was that in terms of relationship to the game world they'll be analagous to the current power curves (i.e. 1st level for 1st level, 21st for 21st) with 30th level characters doing appropriate epic things, but the game-play experience accross the whole range is looking for that...

You know, his wife was in the room.

Well put. I appreciate the OPs point emerging (against his prose) from this thread. I still feel that as your examples pointed out, D&D is ultimately just a rule-set, and with a careful approach from a DM, it can handle any thematic approach you're looking for, provided high-action and...

Really? I wouldn't have any problem with it. I like the old-school "roll a twenty get excited" mechanic as opposed to the new-school "roll a twenty, time for cautious optimism."

With the changes to the way spells work (having some effects that are once a round), I doubt there will be much need for spell-storing devices.

QFT. The DM is absolutely the bottleneck, because a poor RP DM will make you not bother with your own RP.

Because Lucius told him that if he didn't find the missing chalice, he'd kill Gleependorp's favorite grade-school teacher. I will finish it, email me at cklarock at gmail.com and I'll send you the unpublished chapter. :)

Absolutely, and all new players will probably do what we did when we were all-new players. Of course, I was like 9 at the time, and thought the solution to every monster encounter was to run away, that electrum pieces were the best possible treasure, and that a magic missle was an icbm made of...

Because new players only have so much attention/processing available, and if they're spending it trying to learn a rule-set, they're not going to spend it figuring out why Tinklewillie Gleependorp left his cozy burrow to chase after the assassin's chalice in the first place. I tend to think...

Actually, after slogging through the OPs (lengthy) posts, I think I'm getting the point. I agree that the game is thematically pulling away from being grounded in genuine human experience -- not that D&D was ever "realistic", but that the highly-fantastic comic-bookish elements of modern D&D...

Ah, the "elven pox." Yes, we've heard the rumors of a cure disease resistant strain. Great story, Rel-- thanks for posting.

The DnDi tabletop will be a virtual miniatures set-up that'll replicate what your dungeon tiles and minis do at home. Using it, people who are currently playing by post, or by email (or not at all for lack of access to other gamers) could conduct their encounters in real-time; moving thier...

Yes. Yes I do. :)

pwned. Well played, sir. (golf clap)

I . . . I . . . I don't think you're going to convert. ;)

Not when I get one in the sack! I'm not sure where his obsession with men's crotches came from -- I'm a gamer, not a psychologist -- but I'd keep my guard up and my legs crossed if I were you.

They laughed at my cult when we got started, but who's laughing now!?!?!!!!!one This will show those Erythnul guys.

One thing to point out is that the roles as envisioned for 4e D&D aren't arbitrary divisions of abilities, but reflections of the way people already play. Rather than asking us to play to the way they design, they are attempting to design to the way we play. If you have a "Defender," that...

So, essentially, what he's saying is that D&D will no longer have classes and races, but instead have four suits, and that all campaigns will have to have Queens, Kings, Jokers and Aces ruling the campaign world, even if the campaign is not Euro-centric or Tolkien-based! This is just WotC...

Failing to include the largest possible section of your market by disregarding best practices in favor of convinience means it is by definition not striving for excellence, yes. Cutting corners very rarely produces excellence, in my experience.