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    D&D 5E (2014) Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?

    A people don't like list? No, no, its a to-do checklist! Joking aside... That's not a real drawback, considering the guy creating the HP loss is also the guy burning resources to keep you from dying from the HP loss. It basically translates to "spend more resource to power this one ability."...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?

    People don't use Frenzy because they HATED exhaustion. The most popular reason I heard is that they really disliked an ability that killed you as you used it. Nevermind that it was effectively the same thing as saying "you can do this once per day." Virtually everyone I talked to about...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?

    Pardon the interruption, but I'd like to point out something. We do have SOME rules - Sidekicks, Tasha's Cauldron of Everything p142.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?

    They're using totally-renamed spell slots. They're being picked from a list that sounds suspiciously like a spell list. They're functioning like the warlock's spells do. When someone says that they want to make a non-caster using the spell slot system, why shouldn't be people be curious about...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?

    The world of difference being that its fine to mock anyone who thinks it is possible to make a warlord subclass for Fighter and say its impossible. When the convo was about the Fighter subclass in the first place. Talk about twisting words. You've said they're not. But its unclear how...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?

    I only used the word towards one person. And I just had a conversation with them about my own attempt at doing a warlord subclass, where I was flatly told impossible and was going to be either not worth playing or "OP." So, yes, I do see "your side" telling me to shut up and "accept the...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?

    I'm suggesting something similar to banneret, but I don't personally like it as a good starting point. No offense to your idea. Just not a fan of their implementation.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?

    I thought the entire point of the warlord was so that its not magic. And... you've just given them spells but calling them strategies? How are they different? It seems that they're going to scale up like spells? I mean, that's the whole point of the warlock chasis is that their spells...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?

    Stupid tablet erased everything. One minute. The problem I have is this. Its objecting to gatekeepy by being even more gatekeepy. "My way is the only way to Warlock" is bad for all sides. Can we agree to that? I admitted it was selfish - you're not saying anything I didn't admit at the top...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?

    And responses like this are why people object. No, they are Warlord equivalents. You might not like the mechanics. You can say that you don't like the mechanics and want a newer version that appeals to you. That's valid. Being all gatekeepy and denying that its a warlord for the people who...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?

    Just an aside but... not all of the Fighter's class power is hardwired into high damage attack. They have Extra Attack, okay, and one Fighting Style; But the rest? Action Surge does not automatically equate Attack Action. Same with second wind. Indomitable is not about damage, its about...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?

    I was under the impression that minigiant wants zero extra attacks. Plus, I was being kinda silly. The truth is that I've ... well, I had my own subclasses for fighter that included a warlord that I liked. Now, however, I'm kinda just waiting for 1d&D to be published, because I have a few...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?

    The warlord was designed to attack to, you know. There's a reason its a STR-based class by default. Even if you're using a bow, its a STR based class. The lazy-lord was actually an accident. An exploit. The archetypes were based around using melee (or a bow) and using them alongside other...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?

    There was a demand for the 3e style of Fighter where it was just all feats like expanded critical and enhanced fighting style stuff. Sure, I can agree with that. It did shape the core Fighter. I'm not sure I can agree that its why the Battlemaster fails to provide the warlord fantasy. I think...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?

    Another aside - Mike Mearls doesn't hate the warlord. There might have been some politics going on in the background where people were gently encouraged from including 4e's poster class, and Mearls definitely is part of the "warlord should be part of Fighter" crowd. But its a bit strong to say...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?

    As a side note.... Final Fantasy 14 has a tactician class. Its called the Scholar, which is a "magic" healer class (but all the classes use magic in some way, so its a moot point), but its core set of moves involve things like tactical positioning of shields, bombardment abilities, etc. Its...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?

    I think its because I never see people saying "hey, here's my homebrew <insert class name here>, what y'all think of it?" They're saying "Why hasn't WotC made this yet!?" or "This concept is missing from the game!" So, then you get the people who come in and say, "hey, the concept does exist...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Why is There No Warlord Equivalent in 5E?

    If, by defer, you mean sneak attack into the neck while they're asleep? Then yes, yes I do.
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    D&D 5E (2014) What I Don't Like About Subclasses, and Potential Solutions.

    :rolleyes: You asked for thoughts about class design, and I gave it, and the only response is to nit over some unrelated detail? Well, have a good game and enjoy PF2, since it seems clear that you're not happy with 5e. I'm out. Tata,
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    D&D 5E (2014) What I Don't Like About Subclasses, and Potential Solutions.

    And this is where I'm going to stop. The lack of choice is a design decision in a large part of the game, making it simpler and more accessible. Which has worked REALLY well for 5e. Sorry if its not for you, but this feels like you're trying to challenge one of the underlying fundamental...
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