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    D&D General D&D Variants Forum

    Depends on if you count D&D 4e as D&D. I would absolutely describe it as a 4e variant but, come to think of it, the direct overlap to D&D is almost entirely to things that were exclusively 4e, played in the "narrative style" of @pemerton, @EzekielRaiden, and others including myself. Which does...
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    Yes, im getting "opps server error" messages

    So for me it's anything in general, media, and right here in meta that I can't read.
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    RPG Evolution: Eat, Kill, Love

    And there have been a few recent Delicious In Dungeon style modules. Daggerheart even has Beast Feast as one of its six campaign frames.
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    RPG Evolution: Eat, Kill, Love

    Most things we farm don't try to eat us because it's very calorie-inefficient. This doesn't make lion burgers or fried pirhanna taste bad - it's just expensive.
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    D&D General D&D Variants Forum

    Quick question: Should Daggerheart be considered a variant or adjacent and in the general forum? It's significantly more divergent than 13th Age (I'd say it's 1/3 D&D, 1/4 PbtA, and lots of other stuff) but is class/level based and designed to be accessible from a D&D base/to 5e players. (Given...
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    Daggerheart General Thread [+]

    Oh, I really don't think Daggerheart can do everything. It's not rules light, it's not "death is cheap", it doesn't support detailed world simulations. It just provides very good support to the theatre kid end of the math nerd/theatre kid D&D dichotomy. And horror is theatre kid stuff.
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    Daggerheart General Thread [+]

    And I'm going to disagree hard. Daggerheart's mechanics with a couple of fairly simple rules in the campaign frame do more to support horror than Call of Cthulhu does. Losing (maximum) hope is far more impactful than losing Sanity because it's not such a restricted resource - and With Fear...
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    Daggerheart General Thread [+]

    That's how I would treat it
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It on the other hand is impossible to make the argument that Daggerheart does stop-motion as opposed to dramatic and chaotic combat. The initiative system is "whoever wants to go goes" with the GM getting a go when the players miss or roll with fear or the GM spends a fear point.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Amazon US book sales rank.

    Just to put this into perspective Apocalypse World was explicitly designed for short (12 session) campaigns and I find 10 feels better - but it's a very intense 10 sessions. Daggerheart is aimed at 25 and there's far more heft and choice to levelling up in Daggerheart than post level 3 5e
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    And this is entirely a matter of the game being played; picking up the ball and running with it is cheating in association football but 100% central to the game in Rugby football. And if the rules explicitly allow me, as the GM, to introduce a new character as the result of a failed roll (as...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Thank you and I'm disappointed but can't say I'm shocked.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I consider Daggerheart an excellent game based on having played and run it - but it is absolutely the wrong game for you given what I know of your preferences. Different people have different tastes. As an aside I 100% would recommend it for the "narrative 4e" crowd like myself, @pemerton and...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Amazon US book sales rank.

    Just to put this into perspective I don't believe PF2e ever broke the top 150 of books on Amazon. Daggerheart is already, from basically a standing start (Candela Obscura went nowhere), challenging for second place. The big question is whether they can turn their game into a game line. And they...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Amazon US book sales rank.

    It's also part of the campaign frames and the setup there (which I don't have in PDF). The Quickstart adventure also has notes including and
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    D&D 5E (2014) Amazon US book sales rank.

    Just checked the UK Amazon sales ranks. The 2024 D&D PHB is claiming to be the #1 best seller in roleplaying and wargames despite having a rank of 626 in books. By contrast Daggerheart only has a books rank ... at 399 (and isn't even officially out until July on Amazon UK)
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Like I said game rules don't prevent you using loaded dice for your rules. And how is anyone going to know to ban them afterwards? Are you going to boast of it. But any reasonable person would consider it taking the piss and you would almost certainly be kicked from the table for using loaded...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    "I did badly enough at singing that made an awful caterwauling somewhere near where a guard was and now he's come to investigate? I don't understand how this can be and what caused it!" Seriously? If you made and failed a sing check it is because you were trying to sing and didn't do a good job.
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