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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    I don't really see a point as 1) We've already been warned off going into deep political and historical contexts right now (not that this is exactly deep) and 2) I don't see as particularly relevant to the situation given the context we actually have in front of us. I mean, yeah, I disagree...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    Uh, by this logic wouldn't Gary still likely be worse simply because if everyone says worse stuff behind closed doors, wouldn't Gary also say worse stuff behind closed doors? I mean, I do believe that he probably did, and I feel like that matches up to what that one dude said about how the...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    I mean, it's kind of neat to know that as long as someone says something worse, I can say terrible things and people will just assume what I'm saying is apparently mainstream... or so the logic goes.
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    Alternatively beyond your speculation we have people saying they were uncomfortable with it at the time combined with the fact that it got enough of a reaction from a small community of people that Gary felt he needed to actually say something. Like, we don't need your speculation because have...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    And it's intellectually dishonest to not review the evidence we have. The "it was a different time" idea has been argued already and it's played out as an excuse. We have what he said at the time and we even have people talking about how his views beyond what the community felt comfortable with...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    I mean, it would... if he didn't get enough pushback that he felt it warranted speaking out against. This whole idea that "but people were just more sexist back then" misses that he was sexist enough to get enough pushback within a small community that he felt the need to directly address it...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    Call it the "Trout of Righteousness", I just see it as knowing who someone was. I find it important to know these things when discussing what came before it because, given how often people appeal to the tradition and talk about how it was like things, it's good to know where it comes from. No...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    Uh, you can link or post them here, because saying "They're in another thread" is incredibly unhelpful and obtuse when trying to have a discussion with someone. Pfft, you clearly haven't read Victor Davis Hanson! :ROFLMAO: It absolutely does. You can disagree all you want, but this is...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    Okay, but the stuff on X comes as a response to people getting outraged for them putting in a disclaimer. It's meant to show why they put in a disclaimer. I would get people giving a little bit of pushback if Riggs just seemingly did this out of nowhere, but it definitely wasn't out of nowhere...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    Yeah, Gygax making his commentary kind of reminds me of this in regards to the whole Tiamat thing.
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    It definitely was to conservatives at the time, though. They mobilized rather hard against it. The ERA was big politics and a big clash, and trying to minimize it in this fashion is disingenuous. What? No, it's because the state's politics evolved over time. Strongholds were absolutely...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    Well, "some" might be understating it a bit, but I think we should probably move beyond looking him as fans and more towards him a historical figure: the former is what creates these backlashes, while the latter allows us to look at his flaws and understand him and his work as a person.
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    I'm sorry, but you continue to avoid my question and haven't actually told me what in the book falls under the idea of "visceral, inexplicable need to pass judgement" other than putting in a disclaimer. This whole thing reads as a deflection without any sort of proof, and given that you've done...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    $100 is a lot of money. I might buy it, as I've bought all the Designers & Dragons books in PDF, but it might be in the future.
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    So was I, but you leapt over what I said: there's nothing there that is being called out that is more significant than what, say, Riggs is doing. There's nothing to indicate as such and it seems they floated a rather nice, uncontroversial disclaimer that is currently getting blown up. Also you...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    That's a bad excuse. Gary's views seem more than a bit beyond that. But moreover, a lot of people changed with time while Gary did not; just look at some of those quotes from the mid-2000's. All these arguments about how someone was "born of a time" miss that people also can change, often with...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    I wasn't making a joke about child labor, I was making a comparison about how you were continually removing context from @Charlaquin stuff and laughing at how you do it. But again, you seem to like to remove context to favor your own interpretation. Might want to check those biases you're so...
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    D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

    Parasocial relationships are a helluva thing.
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