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The Spycraft 1.0 corebook and the "silver-cover" SC supplements were completely free of any kind of setting or metaplot. Shadowforce Archer was the kind of convoluted, metaplotty setting you describe but it was completely self-contained. Unfortunately the mechanics weren't as self-contained as...

??? The official d20M site has a number of free downloadable PDF adventures, just like the ones at the Spycraft and LSpy sites. I agree with you about the lack of a really good d20M fansite, though. KoOS

Disclaimer: I like d20 Modern quite a bit, have defended it in various on-line fora, and personally prefer it to Spycraft 1.0 (which I do own) for various reasons. I own the d20M corebook and a number of supplements, both official (everything prior to d20 Past) and third-party (all of The Game...

Thank you! As someone who has been rather vocal in criticizing the "collectible rules" philosophy AEG has employed in the past, I have to say that I'm now even more enthusiastic about SC2.0 than I was already... and that's saying a lot! It's really shaping up to be a big winner. KoOS

It's not related to d20 Modern except insofar as they're both d20 games set in the modern milieu, and you don't need d20M to play it. "OGL" is a somewhat inaccurate and misleading* term that companies and people (including myself) apply to those games that use mechanics derived from the d20...

Just wanted to salvage this side discussion from the closed thread in the main forum: Where to start... ? I'll agree that non-competitive owners are the biggest problem, but unquestioning fans are still a problematic factor. In a sport without revenue sharing (and neither MLB nor the NHL has...

Actually, his position is quite clear on the more-than-casual "fans" -- they're bad for the industry, because their willingness to buy crap sight unseen means that more crap is published than would otherwise be the case, and this crap services a market which is ever-shrinking by definition...

This press release is over a year old. Also note that the deal only covers GW's intellectual properties, and DC Comics is definitely not GW's IP! That said, I can't imagine why BI would hire anyone other than GR to develop the new DC RPG. KoOS

I suppose that depends on whether or not you play LSpy, doesn't it? KoOS

I actually checked, and LSpy is an RPGA "member enabled" game... which is to say, it's sanctioned by the RPGA but managed by AEG. I have a sneaking suspicion based on past RPGA behaviour that when SC2.0 hits the streets, LSpy will lose its RPGA sanction as the RPGA is now largely a marketing...

Because the RPGA no longer supports non-d20 Living campaigns. That said, I can't recall offhand whether or not LSpy is run through the auspices of the RPGA. BTW, it's been officially confirmed that Spycraft 2.0 will be OGL (YAY!). KoOS

Just to give the opposition a voice, I'm one of many people who are quite happy with GWd20. The PHB admittedly had some editing problems, and the authors admittedly said some really dumb things in the wake of its release, but to be fair a lot of the criticism of the book at the time was just...

Technocratic propaganda (i.e. the IC stuff in GttTech) might suggest that small-t technocrats stretch back into prehistory, but pretty much everything else in the Mage line places the rise of what became the Technocracy in the European medieval period (i.e. late Ars Magica), with the Order of...

No. 1) The Technocracy aren't the "foundations" of science. They're mages who adopted science as their paradigm, and have succeeded in spreading it as the dominant paradigm in modern society. But they didn't create it, any more than the Celestial Chorus created monotheism in general or...

A-men. That's largely the reason why the Technocracy "won" (as of Mage Revised) -- not because their worldview is superior, but because the Trads couldn't get their stuff together long enough to set a proper agenda, let alone wage a war. There is no such beast as "What the Traditions Want."...

But I wouldn't for a moment suggest that planar travel, psionics or the warforged are as core to the D&D genre as martial arts, supergadgets or gambling are to the cinematic superspy genre. Would you? And it's not like you have to invest in setting supplements to get rules for psionics or...

As for the original question, I'd go with the WW version unless you're already a GURPS 3e player. The two versions share the same setting but the games are radically different because system is a key part of Mage, moreso than any other World of Darkness game IMO. If you like GURPS 3e and the...

It is -- I wouldn't like it at all if it wasn't. I think it would be more complete with stuff like martial arts, supergadgets and gambling in the core, given the genre it claims to emulate, but it's far from unplayable from the core. That said, it's the way the extra stuff is packaged that...

There was a lot of bad blood between SJG and WW over the handling of the original GURPS WoD books, so there is a less-than-zero chance that we will ever see G4e versions published. KoOS

But they didn't put martial arts or superscience or Bondian gambling -- all of which I'd consider core for what purports to be a cinematic espionage and modern-action RPG -- in a class splatbook for the generic Spycraft line. They put all of those in Shadowforce Archer books, which are an...