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Right, thus my point that we don't know where 4e will lead it, given time. That's the opposite of what I was discussing. Saying "you have a choice, you can give up a good object for a bad object" isn't much of a choice. Either way, you're still subject to DM Whim, either you get the item you...

I agree, I think 4e is a great game-core, but it falls short on the variety aspect. It lacks shapechanging, animal companions/ familiars... Grapple will be available in an add-on later? Flying was too much trouble so it's gone... Everything that didn't fit the grid or was too much trouble got...

EN2 won't allow me more then 3 minutes at a time between crashes. I"m pretty sure that's how 3e started also. 4e may be more forgiving, but any player will see trading "12th level item" for "7th level item" as a loss. Rewards are a part of the game experience though, so even aside from just...

It's worth noting that in WoW, you tank in PvE (player vs environment/ everything), you don't tank in PvP (vs player), as the role then is just silly. A protection spec warrior still has a lot of armor/defense to last, but in PvP that warrior is easily ignored to focus on spatting the mage...

This is what I didn't like about M&M (only played a little of first edition). Every Attack and Resist was the same, same values, same system. So, same roll every time for a random result. Once I focused on that, it was hard to suspend it and see past it. It does help a little, but with 4e it...

The PC's don't choose the treasure, so how do they have the fun of it? The treasure system now is totally arbitrary DM with a huge penalty if a player wants direct control. They can easily change it into an item that WAS useful, 5 levels ago. The 20% rule insures that. This assuming that they...

3e allowed you to enhance a magic item, in the core rules. Thus, you could have Uncle Bob's Ashbringer, and from the start of your career to the end of your career you can upgrade it. Later they added Ancestral Relic feat and Weapons of Legacy, but even in the core rules 3e supported the...

That was entirely my point, there was no tank role. Paladin, Fighter, Barbarian, Cleric, Monk, everyone but the thief and mage were in the front line. Even rangers more often than not. The dichotomy wasn't "Tank vs DPS vs CC vs Healer", it was "melee or range" and that was all. I'm not saying...

I remember it applying vs illusions and mind control, either of which can sort of apply to perception. It's simply a matter of assigning stuff to one of the 6 stats when they were throwing stuff places. From then on, it just kept going... 1) 4e "saving throws" are a simple d20 roll, 10+ saves...

Nope, don't want Lost so had no clue what the post was about. Knew it was an inside joke deal, and if I'd known it was a Lost post I'd not have clicked. Alas, just something to do while the griffon flies, as it were.

The attributes are sort of misnamed all encompassing things, yeah. Figure they decided on: Power (phys=str, mental=cha) Speed (phys=dex, mental=int) Resistance (phys=con, mental=wis) Then they tried to assign other features to these things. Folks have always had a lot of issues with Charisma...

um, Huh? The Committee For Subject Lines That Reflect Post Content would like to ask what is important about this announcement?

I'm of a mind that they meant the original SRD for 4e, not "anything we may ever make", but at the same time that's one of the core issues with the GSL vs the OGL. 1) They can redefine it at will, so you are subject to the will of the then current GSL. If they say "oh, that only applies to the...

I think a lot of this disregards the whole "sell most of your books in 30 days" aspect. The main one that "got screwed" by a WotC book that I can think of is the arctic book (frost & fur? I forget) that came out when WotC did theirs. Even then, the odds of a large, expensive book about chilly...

In Dragon long ago (1st edition I think, but maybe second) was a system to determine the suitability of an encounter for a group of pcs and to determine how many of a creature would be what kind of a challenge. It never seemed to gain traction and I never saw it again. I think 4e is a great...

The "rollplay" thing is as old as D&D, so I would have to assume if someone says 4e is Rollplay, then it MUST be D&D. :) D&D is a lot of things, Spelljammer certainly felt different than Greyhawk. Even Eberron, which was very D&D to me, it's certainly different D&D than FR. No one would put at...

Psht, it wishes it were anime.

Definetly it opens it up to a much more reactive way. Sure if Bob's Games cranks out 5 crappy products real fast they may stop future stuff, but it's a little late then. In addition, hopefully the "illusion" of 4e having "better content for 3rd party" doesn't convince distributors and such to...

Everyone involved said it was one way, and you still say it was another. Erik Mona commented on it in another thread, it's been commented on here. The only thing to say that they wanted money before seeing the OGL was the press release which did not specifically say you couldn't see the OGL...

From what I recall, the glut ended before 3.5 was announced. The fact is, publishers published too many books, distributors bought too many books, and gamestores ordered too many at a time. Heck, 3.5e was an excellent time for gamestores to "trim the fat" and cut the price of all 3e stuff and...