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Hmm, should the Feat pre-requeist be for non-sorcerer/bard characters that want to take Dragon Disciple?

Could you post the feat, I havent seen it. BTW, how was the spell list for Lightening sub-type?

Pax referenced the Netbook of Feats, but I dont have it, so I cant really say much on it. I jsut thought it sounded right, if we were allowing Wizards into it also.

Pax's idea of a Draconic Bloodline feat as a prerequest would be a good idea, instead of the ability to cast spells without memorizing. It would also make sense with the redone way of how they get the spells. This list is just for the Electric Sub-type, more to come on the others: 0-Level -...

Then that character ought to be pretty damn good at making weapons! The differences between them very well might be impressive, but the mechanics are very similar, and its the mechanics that we are working with. Blacksmiths have the skill of folding metals, and Heat-weilding, Cold-Weilding...

Looks very nice Buddha, I bet that was a lot of fun to type out. What all types need spell lists, all but the Fire-type Dragons? Ill work out the spell lists for them. I think that the 0-level spells should all look the same, or very similar, because there isnt much variety for them. Il put...

Altman, an idea I came up with, wa to have Craft skills that were related, such as Blacksmithing and Armorsmithing, and give a synergy bonus, similar to what Tumble gives to Balance and all those.

I was thinking on basing the spells avalible on the type of breath weapon you have. With a few others that are ones the all the other types, or most of the other types have access too.

Buddha, yeah, that works better. I wasnt thinking or something. Hmm, what else is there, other than making the spell progression and everything for the individual Base types ...

Buddha, I think that was my program, Im using Wordpad unfortunately. Buddha, your right about the Breath weapon, we did change that to your Templates style ... how does gaining 1d(whatever type) at first level, then it ups to 2d(whatever type) at 5th, and 3d(whatever type) at Dragon Apotheisis...

Buddha, recheck your attachment, I get a corrupted file when I download it. Hit die increases ... Im thinking there should only be two, one at 5th level(d6) and one at Dragon Apotheisis(d8). That work?

No, I dont think that would be better, not with the stat increases, natural armor, and other things, that would make it overpowered, and thats not what Im looking for. Giving it a spell casting progression, and having any spells that the Sorcerer might already have count agaisnt the spells they...

Thanks Buddha :) Things just kept coming up. So we agree they should have their own spell progression ... What about Breath Weapon, 1/3full power at 3rd level, and 2/3full power at 7th level, that seems reasonable to me. I have a question about the Skills listing, why do they have Escape...

Pax, that was pretty good, but Im not quite sure if I agree on making it a 5 level PrC. Im liking it to remain a ten level PrC, and you steadily change, the 5 level on, seems almost rushed to me.

Cool!! :D We gave the DD its own spell progression based on its base dragon type, so that lowers the power also. Any one else got any ideas on how the DD is uber-powered so much so that I still dont know a Pwergamer that has taken it?

I dont know, but I think it should, otherwise the only thing you get from it it wings and penalties. That is the onlything the PrC gives you with the Enlargement. Look in House Rules, Im revamping the Dragon Disciple PrC with the help of Buddha the DM and anyone else that would offer to help...

... The Dragon Disciple PrC is so uber-powered. A friend of mine seems to think that the DD PrC is so uber-powered because they get stat-increases. So can someone inform me, who is such a blind person, the exact reason Dragon Disciples, even though they dont grant +1 to existing caster level...

:D Exactly what I was wanting to hear!! :D Im thinking kind of themed spell lists, depending on the type of Breath Weapon you have, and maybe a little more depending on the base Dragon type. Keeping with my above example of the Gold Dragon from your alt.Half-Dragon template, the DD spell list...

Ok, next question about Enlargement, should the bonuses of growing a size larger stack with the bonuses that you get for taking the DD PrC? And, if they should stack, should the Enlargement be spread out abit more, because is doesnt quite make sense to me that you suddenly(read: over the course...

*Bump* Would the bonuses gained from growing Large, make the DD PrC unbalanced? I personally dont mind if the Enlargement ability was droped, and the Wings occures at Dragon Apotheisis, whether your of Large size or not. I still would like to know what others think of giving the DD its own...