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sure, CSIO was early, which helps it being remembered, had it come out 10 or so years later, no one would remember it. That does not mean it was hugely influential however, I don't think it had a huge impact beyond the product itself. We had plenty of city settings after it, and I do not think...

at best it is a painting by some semi-famous artist, this is OAR 10 after all, not the-one-and-only I can too, and to me they are wrong

if you are not comparing the two, then you are missing the point. The CSIO is a middling product which gets preserved because it was early in TTRPG history, not because it is such a great work of art. Not having a current version therefore is no big loss and in no way justifies working with a...

and, more importantly, the extent necessary to get the product done no, I am already expecting that he gets no money from this directly

ok, still not sure how that makes it the wrong setting for an ARPG

I understand you, I just don’t see one of the two ‘work with’ as entirely harmless and acceptable

and in order to become a licensee, you need to work with Bledsaw, that too qualifies as working with him

not going to argue system, but wrong setting? What makes it the wrong setting? Do we even know the setting or are you assuming FR (not that this makes it any less suitable)

I doubt that, I also doubt that they are becoming GG customers and not just expressing their general hate for others without any intention of actually supporting GG. It’s one thing to lose your customers over something, it’s quite another to gain new ones over it, just look at Tesla

wonder if this even is a customer base, whether for CSIO itself, let alone beyond

all he really has to do is cancel the thing, digging his heels in will not do him any favors, no matter how nicely he tries to package it

yeah, this is something WotC would not do, but I do not see the OGL as an less self-destructive, just as a different path to it

maybe, it's not like anyone was demanding the SRD under CC, but the end result is that WotC abandoned what their customers were against and went further than just not doing 'the thing'. Compare that to Goodman who is trying to explain to his customers how they are wrong... I am still a WotC...

but he isn't, he keeps defending his decision. Reminds me of the OGL, except that Wizards was smart enough to cut their losses and listen to their customers

yeah, maybe some do, but I am not, and yet I do not like Goodman's position... but 'we' also stand for working with a white supremacist... which one is it Joe? Guess we know the answer, and GG can go down that path without me

that always was to be expected, heck there might be some new customers cheering for this same, my view of GG has dropped with the announcement and again with the JG post. At this point I probably will not support them any more outside of maybe an occasional humble bundle

I doubt the reason to print it is to refund the original backers, the reason is to preserve the CSIO and make some money for GG in the process, the way to do this without giving money to JG is to refund their backers agreed, it already has a negative impact, JG and Bledsaw are profiting

not sure I saw that as a psi subplot, that would have worked for me without psionics just as well (see Raistlin in DL)

it lasted about 5 years, but that is longer than 3e did…

would have worked for me, they have the templars for that. Also saw no need for psionics though