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You seem to have a low bar (or perhaps too specific a bar?) for what you consider an "expert warrior". Really? So now you need two PCs pooling resources as justification? Besides, bardic inspiration wouldn't really help the wizard all that much. A bonus to a single attack roll, using a sub-par...

A level 1 fighter is also an entry level warrior. In fact, I challenge you to show how a level 1 fighter is noticeably more an "expert warrior" than a level 1 war cleric. Same armor. Same weapons. Same attack bonus. Same number of attacks. The only thing left is HD. And if you think 2 less HPs...

Yet here's the claim you made to which I was responding. Agreed. And I have. Because it does. I'm glad we are now on the same page.

Given that your question was not, "what qualifies you for the war god's blessing?", I'm fairly certain you are confused as to what it is you are actually asking. Please clarify. Again, not your claim. You stated an opinion that a war cleric was not an expert warrior. You did not ask, "what does...

Your definitions are not definitive. They get heavy armor and martial weapon proficiencies from 1st level. That alone makes them an expert warrior. On top of that they get bonus action attacks, guided strike, both their channel divinities are warrior-centric, and they eventually get frikkin...

Its a matter of degree. Sure, what the feat grants is a nice benefit. But turning it down for RP reasons isn't all that impactful. Neither for the receiver nor for the feat user. It's one relatively small benefit being turned down situationally by one of several recipients. Where as the warlord...

Agreed. Just like... Want to be good at punching people? There's a feat for that. Want a whole class built around it that surpasses what others can achieve via that route? There's a supernaturally fueled class for that. Just like... Want to be good at inspiring people? There's a feat for...

Confused. None what? Issue with it working as intended? Do you feel that is/should be a universally true statement? Or applicable selectively?

Double negative? Not sure what you are intending to ask. What class description? To discuss 5e? What an odd request. I recommend you use 4e references when discussing 4e. We are discussing 5e. So you want to refer to 4e material to prove leaders aren't leaders, but can't because 4e leaders...

Ask the gods.

That's not me doing that. It's those who presents warlord classes/features using words that indicate they are.

Which question? Already answered thoroughly by the devs themselves.

Before I can answer that, I must first point out your false correlation between the noble background and being a natural leader. Noble is a birthright, not a personality. Or are you saying you cannot come up with example nobles who lack those high social features? Because nothing in the...

Yep. Some power source has imbued them with word magic. Making their ability to influence, motivate, inspire and/or manipulate others a supernatural gift. Still sounds good to me. But, we've been over this several times before. Were you hoping to bring something new to the debate this time?

And that doesn't even consider that, again, a fighter can take the acolyte background and be a full-fledged priest of a religious order. And/or if a fighter is looking to be able to wave a symbol, to make extraordinary divine effects happen, there's a feat for that too.

A question like that could lead someone to question if the asker has ever even read the PHB... All from page 56 (the opening page of the Cleric section): "Clerics are intermediaries between the mortal world and the distant planes of the gods. As varied as the gods they serve, clerics strive...

You have a typo there in the class name spelling. Its spelled: W-A-R-L-O-R-D.

Frankly this is not the kind of D&D I play. Nor anyone I know. I can safely say the devs, either (since I've read of their games exploits, watched them play in videos, etc.). But to each their own. If this is the kind of D&D you play, more power to you. I'm just not sure you should be advocating...

All on their own, huh? Just because? Because they want it to happen that way? Is there an argument coming that the cleric robs their deity's agency by telling the deity to like them and give them powers?

Perfect. Exactly. Now anyone can roleplay being inspirational to their allies and get a mechanical benefit asd seems to be required. That's just more of not what a cleric is/does.