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The apple-to-apple is actually: Why can't anyone roleplay? Good thing this strawman isn't what clerics actually do/are.

Yeah. Heck, given the spirit of the class feature, I probably wouldn't even take issue with a conjurer asking to make something like a simple 10' pole. In fact, I can't think of anything on the various PHB equipment lists I'd really balk at, as long as it was a single object and was 10 pounds or...

Heh. I was just coming into this thread to say the same exact thing. A 50' coil of hempen rope is conveniently 10 pounds. Silk is half the weight. So a DM could allow you to have a 100' coil of silk role one supposes. But yeah.

Get old school enough, and you get MAR = Multiple Attribute Requirement.

By presenting a table-proven example. Not just white-room theory-crafting. My "4-stat MAD" character, built on standard array, is effective and functional. Because MAD doesn't really exist. Maybe if the "D" stood for "desired", I would agree. But "dependent", nah. Can you provide an example...

I am. If you think its true, show your work. I did. And that's even given that its generally easier to prove a positive than a negative.

I typed fewer words than your post to which I responded. Not sure why you are making is sound like I tried to cast wall of text. Correct. No class/build is immune to wishing it had higher scores in every stat. That doesn't make it at all necessary in 5e. Because BA. Heck, my current favorite...

I'm genuinely confused. The whole long paragraph above goes on and on about all the stuff EKs get and can do. Then you say paladins are stronger. I don't get it. So why then claim you need multiple, extremely high stats to be viable? That's fine. But why are you letting that influence what...

So just 10d10 every round for a few hours until death then? Since most monks can't really bleed off that much ki fast enough. Also, -1 point for having that signature and responding in such a way. ;)

Would a dragon tattoo wearer instantly die, in a brilliant explosion of blood and bone, if they accidentally stepped on an ant hill?

Curious. Are you saying those two for paladin more so than other classes? I see a lot of human and half-elf everything. Not sure that implies anything about paladins. More about human and half-elf as really good race choices in general. First, gish isn't a class. Second, I disagree about the...

Isolating one-third of the game's focus seems a flawed perspective when discussing what characters need/want. But okay. So end-game level characters... Again, what about the other two-thirds of the game? I could argue Con is more important to full casters. Due not only to concentration, but...

Heck, thanks to BA, even ONOHAS (Only Needs One High Ability Score) isn't a thing, really. A character is perfectly viable with a 10-14 stat range across the board (final after racial mods). But again, buzz words like "maxed out" lead me to believe there may be previous edition baggage. And...

I think this statement is far more applicable to the last few editions of the game. Not so much anymore. Going into 5e, with older edition baggage and expectations, can have a substantial impact on how one perceives it. Or, perhaps, a bit more clarification is in order? What three scores do you...

Can't help it that every time I see the thread's title, it reads to me like: Nine half-warlords. Which is kind of on the nose WRT your opinion of the kind of warlords we have available at this time. Heh.

Yeah. I thought I recalled you being on board with the proposed "magic sidebar" compromise back when it was a thing. I'm sure we are much closer that you might think on what we consider viable.

Are the flames created by the Create Bonfire spell magical? Can the hit points restored by Cure Wounds be dispelled? Just because an effect is not magical does not mean the source was equally mundane. The same is described in the bard's description. The same could easily be said of the warlord.

In previous warlord conversations, we were all about providing some sort of bard-like pseudo-magic "words of creation have power" sidebar. It had promise. But was shot down by the more adamant non-magical demanders and subsequently petered out. I thought that was unfortunate. It showed a lot of...

This is not a universal truth. Many players care about the fiction and consider it a part of the experience at the table.

No it's not. Please don't tell me what "the big offender" is to me. Unless you can quote where I've singled out that particular power as the part of warlords that I do not want to see in 5e.