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I'm not. I'm willing to accept all the warlords already found throughout 5e. So, it would seem, do the vast majority of 5e players. You should join us. It's much more fun playing 5e than complaining about it for not being something it was never intended to be. That's a mischaracterization of...

Incorrect. The point was that warlords, as designed to fit within 5e's system expectations, already exist in more than one way. A multitude of ways, actually. The point was that some people's inability to take off their 4e glasses, and see 5e on its own merits, and their need to hold on to...

No one is advocating banning the fighter class because Mike was playing one demanding all the attention and garnering all the team bonuses. Who said anything about that?

Can the paladin do that for himself?

Pointing at a hypothetical someone playing poorly, by manipulating and/or coercing his friends into giving him all the attention, is a terrible way to promote the idea of a warlord. Just sayin'...

I would counter with, in a roleplaying game, people want to actually play a role. Not just garner bonuses. Otherwise there are plenty of boardgames out there that better suit that narrow a need.

It has everything to do with the warlord. Also, justifying bad behavior by pointing to other potential bad behavior is not exactly a solid argument.

If Commander's Strike is seen as "bossing around", it's already too much. Why would we want even more such nonsense?

Your first response is contradictory to your second.

Are there? And what about the guy on the team, who is not even pictured (or a "team captain"), who ends up getting fired up during the course of a game and starts motivating his teammates on the sidelines? I guess he just spontaneously converted some of his class levels into warlord levels for...

Yep. Magically. Though I could argue that the 1st-level bard's inspiration is somewhat minor, infrequent, and inconsequential, to that epic wizard. Relatively speaking, and all things considered. After all, the wizard's epic bard frequently offers up a great deal more (and more powerful)...

But let me drag you back to topic, kicking and screaming if need be: Do you allow players to use the application of their PC's social skill(s) to influence how another player's character thinks or feels?

No. For the exact same reason its not okay for Mike to passively-aggressively coerce everyone else at the table, into accepting his leadership and inspiration, because not doing so is to not let him play the character he wants to play. Then there is, as you like to keep professing, no...

You are either missing the whole point of this thread, or moving the goalpost to prove some point irrelevant to the topic. You can use attitude adjusting spells (and abilities and social skills) on a target when they are not willing. Please stay on topic. Are you interested in getting back to...

Agreed. And yet, as some would have it, a newly introduced 1st-level warlord would be able to do so to an established higher level party the moment he arrived on scene. Cuz mechanics...

Sounds like you'd be better served using a system more suited to your preferences. The player, or their character? You really do need to read through the 5e PHB. Statements like this reveal your lack of system knowledge. Great. Sounds like you are starting to pick up on the kind of...

That is an incorrect use of "anecdotal". If you offer up an analogy (sport 'leader"), that I can show to be invalid on its face, that is not using anecdotal evidence. That is disproving your entire theory. Unless you'd care to disprove my counter-argument, that sports teams do not have "one...

That's nice for a boardgame. This isn't Chutes & Wizards. This is a roleplaying game. Things aren't cast in a sterile vacuum of vanilla pluses and minuses. Mechanics, consequences, and social impacts, all mean things in the narrative. When you say things like this I have to question if you have...

Fair enough. I'm just working off of the fact that there are certainly some who do feel that way. And catering to their niche isn't necessarily good for 5e. So if people would be upfront, we can weed out those seeking to design in bad faith and keep moving forward with a healthier pool of...