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This sounds like a great campaign idea for Primeval Thule! Sending "Conan" and company, along with a horde of laborers, out into the dangerous unknown to retrieve mysterious lore and ancient artifacts (preferably of a Lovecraftian bent...) for a secret organization or rich, shady cabal for some...

Really? Jim: "My barbarian thinks rogues are untrustworthy. Including Mike's character." Mike: "I use my persuasion skill to get Jim's barbarian to trust me." <rolls high> DM: "Okay, Jim. Your barbarian trusts Mike's rogue now." vs... Jim: "My barbarian thinks elves are frail and inept...

Nothing at all. Not only did I enjoy them in 4e, I've seen several played in 5e already. What's your beef with the 5e warlord? That its not a 4e warlord? I know that. But there's a very simple way for you to play, and continue to enjoy, a 4e warlord. Wanna guess what that is? Your glaring lack...

I agree those people (if they existed) would be unproductive. Not sure what the point of your rant was though. But as for me? I, for one, love all the 4e elements that made it into 5e. <shrug>

Those are just opinion. I happen to disagree with you. Does that mean our votes cancel? More opinion. Other people say otherwise. Mischaracterization. Or quote please. More of your one-man edition warring. Also, you've been asked on numerous occasions, by many people (including mods), to...

The guy in our group, currently running a game, has made changes to a handful of feats. Some of them are interesting tweaks. Some strike me as excessive or unnecessary. But whatevs. I roll with it. Doesn't impact my enjoyment of playing either way. He, and a few of the other players at the...

Not buying the whole premise of the OP. Smells more like spam.

Oh man. I totally forgot about El Mahdi! Wow. Thanks for the link and stroll down memory lane, jayoungr

Kite474, Perhaps a few examples of how you perceive being able to bypass tool proficiency with a skill check will help me understand? And/or a few examples of which tools you feel are the most "useless"? I'm curious.

Whatevs <shrug>. Just try telling that to folks like Tony, and a few others here, who would be all up in arms* if a warlord's class features were even hinted at being magical. Even mildly. (*I say with confidence because it's already happened every time this was offered as a compromise in the...

Kite474, You think half the tools are useless? How have you come to that realization?

Yeah, nothing new. That's been offered up a few times already. You will find certain hardcore warlord fans are not at all interested in your attempt to magic-ify their mundane support role concept.

I totally agree. I was just saying that you don't need crunch and rule intervention to grant a PC authority.

I've mentioned before, my buddy's homebrew WWII RPG. In it we all played a band of soldiers. Through character creation choices, each character ended up with a rank. Highest ranking PC was the commander of the team/mission. There were rules for how the leader "commanded" such that player agency...

pemerton: So I take it Aragon has no "warlord" qualities or mechanical features, to represent the passages you quoted, in any of the various LotR systems (or its clones)? Interesting. I guess they didn't feel there was a big enough need to give his such crunch...

pemerton: Since you keep going back to the Aragorn/LotR well, and brought up the validity of LotR in an RPG environment, were you aware there is a LotR TTRPG (there have been several over the years, actually)? Maybe you can find an official write-up of Aragorn, somewhere in one of those games...

Interesting. What has lead you to believe this? And do you have anything that points to such a theory? It just seems counter to what I would have guessed, is all. Give than 5e was designed through an extensive, open public survey and playtest...

That is not the context in which we are conversing. We aren't talking about what a warlord can/should do. But rather about a claim that Aragorn was somehow being a warlord mechanically when certain scenes played out. That's a forced perspective. It's also not necessary. Nothing in the narrative...

That's not true at all. It adds a second "whatever will shine brightest in the moment" to the party. This fight we needed two wizards. Good thing the warlord was here to emulate that! This fight a second rogue would be ideal. Yay, warlord! Now, if only this fight we had a second paladin. Warlord...

Okay. Great. But those aren't PCs. I thought we were talking about warlord PCs... ...or maybe it all just roleplayed out that way at the table? Maybe some people are trying to invent a mechanical doodad that wasn't present and needn't be? I can certainly see that being the case. Occam's razor...