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  1. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    To be told "your opinion about this subject seems to lack even basic research." sounds pretty dismissive to me. It is what amounted to me, and I also found it to be rude and derogatory. I have responded quite politely to any and every post I have written in this thread and this has been the...
  2. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    Dude, relax. You sound far from any of that! :) I don't care if the hobby is shrinking (but I don't believe it is, or at least not dramatically). That has happened to most of my friends too. Heck, I don't think I know anyone my age who has as much time to play today, as he/she had 15 years...
  3. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    Unlikely for us, you're the minority. I disagree there. For me to have an attitude of "I don't really care what the hobby does, just want I need at the time" is bad for the hobby. We can probably argue that point until the cows come home and not be able to convince each other of the opposite...
  4. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    We are not really talking about stores, though. We're talking about one company with one IP. If we were talking about FLGS I'd agree with you there.
  5. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    There is a difference between challenging and dismissing. You've been challenging my opinions all the way and I haven't had an issue. However if someone, who's not really participated with any noticeable reasoning just turns to me and says "you don't know what you're talking about" (which what...
  6. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    So far agreed. Agreed too. I haven't said it is not. I have said it is diluting rapidly. That is based on people I have heard say they knew D&D as videogames but not tabletops, and the number of people I see at conventions starting with other games. Yes it is the flagship... for now. For...
  7. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    That is a cheap way to dismiss someone's opinion. Have you really done much research to reply to my post or just used your knowledge? I could just as easily say you lack an understanding of marketing based on your previous post. Also, you're not addressing my questions. If they do well, why...
  8. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    That is a completely different conversation, but I will also say it's our fault as players. We are the one who choose videogames over tabletop RPGs. The video games have offered an experience that, without having the human interaction or flexibility of tabletop RPGs, is more immediate and...
  9. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    Perhaps, but I haven't seen that happen yet. Until I see it happening, I would believe to be a marginal benefit to D&D, and no benefit to the hobby as a whole. And you think that is enough? Also, and to get back to my OP, that's placing D&D on the map. RPGs by association. If someone who's...
  10. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    Oh dear... let's not get into semantics please... It can make the conversation go on for too long. Uhmm.. I need more than your reassurances, I'm afraid.
  11. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    I stand corrected on that one. I haven't seen the Shadowrun or Vampire edition wars rage. You do illustrate my point there. More people to play the current DnD, not any other game. Their responsibility is to their product, not to any other, even if it'd be convenient for them to do so.
  12. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    Well, it certainly is convenient. I totally agree with you there.
  13. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    And don't you think that a letter saying "Hey, please only use *this* and *this* from the books. Anything else shouldn't be used. If you want to use it, please ask and we'll discuss it". As someone who's given massive bollockings to my friends for copying games or downloading illegal PDFs, I am...
  14. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    Because if you're not prepared to help the hobby expand and grow, you shouldn't be prepared to complain when games you like are no longer produced. And they won't be produced much longer. This apathy you display is exactly the attitude I mentioned in my OP and the attitude that's so pernicious...
  15. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    And that way of thinking is part of what's driving the decline of the hobby.
  16. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    I can't disagree more. Although is true that they have diversified well into boardgames (and they will probably continue to do so. They certainly should) that is not their core product. Unless they're trying to make it. I don't know that. Also, I would argue that, at least around me, I have...
  17. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    That answers the question I asked in my OP. Don't you think the hobby would be much bigger if everyone did the same? OK, I take the semantic point. I should have said that not enough new people are coming into the hobby. And insist that we don't use word mouth outside the gaming circles...
  18. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    I sure agree with that! My OP though, related to my belief that it's not down to WotC to promote any other game than D&D and that it is down to us players to promote the hobby as a whole.
  19. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    For someone who's not accepted the premise of a question, you've responded to it rather eloquently. I would love to see the face of one of WotC execs if you told them that. No company sees work, or sales, gone to a competing product as a "win-win situation". Whether they are or not is a...
  20. Leviatham

    Is it WotC’s responsibility to bring people to the hobby?

    With that I agree. And again, I feel WotC makes an appalling job of promoting D&D, at a small, large or worldwide level. And so do an appalling job most of the publishing companies I know.
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