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The principle points out a logical flaw in reaching a conclusion about an observation based on the qualities of the people observing it. That's all I used it for. The only thing I was "proving" was that prosfilaes' statement employed faulty logic.

I had already described this argument at length and identified it as the "anthropic principle". Rather that repeat the discussion at length, I used the label I had already identified for it. It's rather like other labels people seem to be using like "dissociated mechanics" and "simulationist...

So throw that onto the long list of things that impact world-building, but that 3e never addresses. It's not one of the things that 4e need address, since flying isn't nearly as common in the 4e default world as it is in the 3e default world. It remains, however (and is now bolstered by your...

In my worlds, generally, divine practitioners get access to divine power by being anointed into the faith. In that way, divine practice is more theurgical than faithful. It's up to the followers to keep themselves pure. That said, the gods can directly intervene, by sending angels and other...

No, it doesn't. All it means is that the PCs have the means to obtain the specific item they seek to commission with the loot they made. It does not require -- and this edition does not suggest -- an industry dedicated to equipping adventurers. So you are suggesting that because Forgotten...

The size of a dragon hoard is given in the Monster Manual?! I don't think so. A dragon hoard would be given out as treasure parcels based on the level of the dragon and the party confronting it. At any rate, how is world-breaking for dragon hoards to be introduced into an economy...

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Everything didn't lead up from the latter. Everything led up from your opinion that 4e worldbuilding was not easier than 3e. I pointed out a specific instance in which that is not true, which did not involve the houseruling that people can do in both 3e and 4e. It's now up to you to present...

How is any of this a function of 4e mechanics?

Do you have a basis for that opinion? Because I was responding to it by showing how 4e is exempt from one aspect: it doesn't have built-in mechanics that break worlds in the way that 3e does. To show 3e does I gave a handful of examples. If you want to show that 4e has similar problems, be my...

So in your view Zone of Truth because no statement is ever really untrue from someone's philosophical sense? So you've just house ruled Zone of Truth out of the game. Doesn't that prove the point that it affects campaign worlds if you have to got o these absurd lengths to avoid ti from having...

That wasn't the issue. The issue was building a world consistent with the implications of the rules. You had made the claim that 4e was more difficult than 3e because improvising new rules is more difficult and I was pointing out that rules that already exist that could later be discovered to...

It's an iron wall. "You cause a flat, vertical iron wall to spring into being." Your interpretation is saying it's not an iron wall at all, but merely something that looks like iron. You said we were speculating for fun. So I was speculating. No. It's an instantaneous spell. Once cast it...

I didn't ask a question. I was making a point. Then what's your issue? Is it really that you don't like the names for attack powers like Hypnotism and Baleful Polymorph? If it was "A Second of Control" and "Momentary Transmogrification", would your issues be resolved on those points?

The spell descibes the wall as "like any iron wall". An iron wall that crumbles so easily is not "like any iron wall". It has the hardness and hit points of iron. Moreover the duration of the spell is "instantaneous". There's no lingering magic that would destroy the iron once the wall is...

Those masons don't exist. They'd have been rendered obsolete as soon as the Lyre of Building was created. The notion of masons assassinating the king's lyre-playing minstrel is as absurd as the idea that buggy-whip manufacturers would try to assassinate Henry Ford. But even if true, it's...

Yesway Jose, this seems to me to be the crux of the misunderstanding. I see no evidence that 3e's designers spent any time considering the worldbuilding aspects of the mechanics they designed. There is nothing "simulationist" about the Zone of Truth. It's simply a spell that forces people to...

The Zone of Truth would be coupled with a Detect Magic spell (a 1st level spell). First, the Detect Magic spell is used to determine if the subject is already under some magical protection. If so, you remove that protection. Second takes three rounds to determine if someone is affected by a...

Just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it's not a problem. Do you not understand why Zone of Truth, Fabricate, Wall of Iron, ESP, Lyre of Building and the like should have an impact on how a world develops, even if you haven't personally experienced it? I mean, I haven't...

A stunned frog. Yes. It's plenty of time for his swordsman pal to impale him on the tip of his spear.