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A little bit more confusion......on pg 276 under "Attack Results" in the PHB it states that automatic hit: when you roll a natural 20 on the d20 you score an automatic hit. However, it goes on to say on pg 278 that a Critical Hit is when you roll a natural 20 on the d20 and a 20 with whatever...

I thought this all might be the case. I just started the combat chapter...hehe. Thanks all!

Is Second Wind the same thing as a Healing Surge? I don't think I've seen Second Wind discussed as a separate thing yet in my reading of the PHB.

Right...and all I will need to do is add 2 pts into Dex with my starting stats and I will be set! I will have to check what lvl I will be able to get 2 pts into Dex at.

Why don't you post an offensive version of Irongorn that takes advantage of all this with all the feats, etc. you would build him with, Zaruthustran? I want to check this out! Would human be the optimal choice for it or something more exotic like Longtooth Shifter or whatever. Basically, what...

But low Dex means no Astral Fire and now Blade Opportunist! Also, aren't you gimpling your Dragon Breath and some of your Paladin powers by a kind of low Wis score, Phil500? How about Str 18* (+4), Con 12 (+1), Dex 11 (+0), Int 8 (-1) , Wis 14 (+2), Cha 16* (+3) Would I still be able to get...

Shouldn't you have put Drizzt's weapon and armor proficiencies on there? I don't see any listed.

In my first 4e character I've made thus far I had the Dragonborn Paladin starting stats set to: Str 18 Con 12 Dex 12 Int 8 Wis 13 Cha 16 I was trying to use the 18 in str to hit more often since attack bonus is huge in 42 and I also wanted to be able to do my share of damage to foes. I was...

That is exactly as I thought but do you also get 1/2 class lvl to your attack rolls too? I think I read that you do.

I just wanted to clarify this for 4e since I also play Saga Edition, which has a VERY similar class level mechanic and I don't want to confuse the two when I am playing. In 4e you add 1/2 class level to skill rolls, attack, and defenses rolls but not to damage rolls, right?

Yup! Those Star Wars Saga Edition players out there (me included) had to wait almost a year and the GM screen still has not been released for Saga Edition yet. This is because it is well known that Star Wars RPG gamers are the red headed stepchildren of WotC.

But you basically gave up on this Human Ranger Pit Fighter build though beause it wasn't completely optimal?

Str 18* (+4), Con 12 (+1), Dex 12 (+1), Int 8 (-1) , Wis 13 (+1), Cha 16* (+3) (+2 to Str and Cha from Racial bonuses) Does this seem legal now and just as good?

I like your recommendation but with the Dragonborn racial bonuses they end up like this: Str 18* (+4), Con 12 (+1), Dex 13 (+1), Int 8 (-1) , Wis 14 (+2), Cha 16* (+3) (+2 to Str and Cha from Racial bonuses) This equates to 24 points and the games only allows for 22. Any idea how to make...

I made my Dragonborn Paladin with these starting ability scores: Str 18* (+4), Con 12 (+1), Dex 10 (+0), Int 8 (-1) , Wis 12 (+1), Cha 18* (+4) (+2 to Str and Cha from Racial bonuses) What do you all think? Any other recommendations? The Str is quite nice and the Cha of 18 really helps with a...

Any other opinions to what I said in the previous post just above this one?

1) Paladins need high str, wis, and cha, so it is very tough to have good scores in each. There are a lot of abilities that build upon a good Cha score for the paladin. 2) Dex is nearly meaningless for a defender since you will be wearing heavy plate most of the time but I would love to have...

What would you suggest for optimal starting ability scores for a Dragonborn Paladin?

Anyone?

I thought that was probably the case. Thanks!