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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    And you've clearly made the wrong distinctions if you wholeheartedly agree that all gamergaters should be forced out of gaming circles by social pressure.
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Duh. But you mentioned this as if it were a roadblock to my suggestion (treat everyone equal) being unable to reach equality today. What does the past have to do with fixing equality today? If it has nothing to do with this issue, then lets disregard it. The way to fix people being treated...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    What measurement did you use to determine what the movement was about? On YouTube I saw dozens of videos by numerous people specifically focused on ethics and only mentioned harassment to preach against and shame those who were using it. Their comments section was monitored well, and they were...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Because out of 100,000+ people there wasn't anyone who cared about ethics. They just spent hours and hours on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, etc. decrying the harassment and trying to make progress with game journals (and did get changes to policies made in many instances) as a cover so they could...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Not just me, pretty much everyone. Gamergate was filled with people caring about journalistic integrity and people who only wanted to harass others. Unfortunately, like and label, anyone can claim to be apart of it. There was no membership/registration/background check involved. The honest...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    I'd make a distinction there, there were enough honest people who didn't resort to harassment within Gamergate to garner an exception.
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    No, you previously said... You were talking about *PAST* inequalities as if that needs to factor into what we need to do today to make things equal. With regards to equality there's only one thing we need to do, treat everyone the same. Now you're only mentioning *EXISTING* inequality...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    First the materials I've seen don't label those statements, and other seemingly innocent statements, as possibly problematic. They unequivocally are. Example: https://issuu.com/thecollegefix/docs/nfsracialmicroaggressions_table Are they only problematic when you inject those quotes into a...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    You'll find out that your in the vast minority when speech like "America is a melting pot" and "I think the most qualified person should get the job." are considered politically incorrect. At some points we have to expect adults to act as such. That's not to say that all of political...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    No I don't think that's sexist and the feminist videos you're referencing are likely what I'm referring too when I voice my concern for exactly what sorts of policies are going to be implemented.
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Yes but in this case its told in the form of a joke and not meant to be morally/ethically bankrupt its meant to make people laugh. For jokes, intent and audience perception around you matter. Switch the racist joke told at a KKK rally and put that same racist joke being told by a black man to...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    So you're telling me that long before the idea of political correctness, so basically long before the 1970's, it was frowned upon saying something to the effect of... "Man, wasn't that a crazy ending to that movie?" Didn't think so. I said calling *something* crazy, not someone. Moreover...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    No, PC is now over reaching making petty things, like saying something is crazy, is now frowned upon.
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy That's a logical fallacy. It's not a reasonable rebuttal. Attempting to solve a problem that will never be solved isn't an issue. It's just doing the best you can. Do you have a different, logical, reason as to why treating men and women the...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    So that's ok, if all in ear shot are comfortable, with rape jokes but not racist jokes? Seriously are you just jerking my leg?
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    In what contextually relevant scenario do we treat men as potential rapists based solely on the fact that their men? Did I ever suggest that it's easy for women or hard for men to find their own gendered tables? What does difficulty have to do with any of this? Yes I know most are already...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Just because it would never actually end up being equal doesn't mean we shouldn't try our best. Murder, rape, and theft will always be apart of the same real world but I really doubt you'd protest attempts at reducing those behaviors. Treating men and women the same would serve to help men and...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Because its a joke. Just like if I tell my best friend I'm gonna punch him right square in the nose, jokingly of course, isn't the same as an actual threat of violence. Intent matters, and perception of those around you matters. Firstly I never said "enough", I said all. Nice try. And...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    So in your mind the *only* reason to create a gender only table is for safety? Did you even read the story of the woman who was mentioned in the original article? The reason people opposed her woman only table was because they thought it would make people think that women weren't safe in their...
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    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Ruibbish, if everyone was treated equally what would be the need for a female only table? It wouldn't matter what gender you are, and it wouldn't matter what gender those are who are around you. Everyone would be treated the same. I actually have to explain this?
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