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I think you've done your best to try*, and you may need to make the decision of "It's time to walk" or "It's time to live with this" . You could always point the DM to this thread, but they may not listen. However, I do think you are entitled to have these rules changes explained to you...

Well, I prefer the "Don't argue about pettiness" solution, but since I've found people have different ideas about that, i'm not sure there's an actual solution to the problem.

Indeed, it remains a risk. Nonetheless, it can be valuable if some of the risk can be reduced even if the entirety of the risk is not eliminated. That specific idea is not being applied here. The idea, as I would put it, is that removing alcohol (a potential influence that can lead to...

It's not the few beers that gives me the strong feelings. It's the behaviors caused by the people who drank them. Or more than a few. People who think it's because I have a problem with some folks wanting their alcohol to have fun are mistaken. It's because of folks who don't know their...

Oh, I'm not alone. I know that. There are people who want to make that the argument, but not only is it an inappropriate type of argument trying to use the group consensus to coerce the individual, it's a false one. There's plenty of people who have chimed in to say they share the same...

It's got little to do with the setting itself. I see it as related to more people playing it, more people reading the novels and other books. For the first, a person can be demanding on authenticity on one subject, but ignorant enough of others that they don't notice the flaws. Or they can...

Only if there are more players annoying to you who are offended by that than there are people annoyed by such behavior.

Well, that seems to be what people think I'm thinking, at least that's the vibe I'm getting. So I prefer to make sure it's a cause for confusion. I prefer to base it on the person, myself, that's why I remove one factor that can affect a person's behavior. And since I don't want to be in the...

Fair enough, I'm willing to drink something else, or use sugar-substitutes. In fact I do have the non-sugar versions available for people. I did go no-soda for a while, but then I let myself get weak when Mountain Dew Game Fuel came out.

Then I'd have a lot fewer people to play with. Most people are only idiotic about some things, not everything.

Soda and Kool-aid. I know, very bad of me, but the water where I am is too hard to drink straight.

Well, I don't disagree with the folks who are saying that the root of the problem is the person, however, I'm not playing D&D to fix people.

Well, I thought it did, namely that I'd have no problem with their opinion. Would I always be able to accomodate it? No, but then there's a solution for that, we don't play those games together.

I certainly would be willing to accept a GM who ran a game without those things, they might well have a good game. I have even run such a game myself, though the reasons were realism rather than religious. If somebody chooses not to play in my games that do feature those things, I can accept...

Visit New Jersey. :D

They're old enough to smoke legally. By law, they're adults. Yes, I know, and I agree with you that the ultimate root of the problem is they're idiots who can't behave properly, but what I can do? I realized a long time ago I can't make some people behave better. I did, however, realize that...

I also missed out on the STD's and the Pregnancy scares so it's a trade-off I can live with.

Sounds typical enough. Watch the beginning of Disney's Gargoyles series for an example. Goliath and Hudson went off to deal with something. The three young gargoyles were in the Rookery. If you want, you could have the soldiers diseased or cursed somehow instead.

Some of us go to Church for just that reason. And I have a friend who has a theory that the Rotary Club opening up to members of both genders (I think that was the club's name, it may be some other), has lead to more affairs since people get together and see that they share the same community...

I'm pretty sure your representations as so off base that I do not feel that to be the case. Sorry. I've made my best attempt, and now I'll walk away. Well, you do seem to want to make things a psychological one, so I'll just pass on further discussions with you as I feel they'd be...