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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    It's hard to say. They weren't leaning hard in the early 5e era ca 2014-18, which saw explosive growth. But I don't think they've had the same sort of disaster as befell the recent MCU either - despite similarly lacklustre products! And I think Paizo generally does well, while leaning in pretty...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    I don't think he treated male staff any better. Did any of them get training & support? But I do think Gygax was often sexist (& if your inference is correct, possibly horny), and I wouldn't be surprised if he had treated a woman differently. His colleagues at TSR seemed very annoyed he had...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    Apart from Internet discussion boards... A biography of Gygax. A book about TSR like The Game Wizards, and similar scholarly works. I would prefer a nuanced discussion rather than poo-slinging though. Gygax to me seems a rather complex character, and I would like to see discussion of his...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    I'm calling him sexist here. It's ok to discuss it. Not sure I'd call it a "fact", it's an opinion, which I hold. I wouldn't put it in the introduction to a book sold as a celebration of D&D. But I think it's fine to discuss it in a different context.
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    Because of context - like I said, there is a time & place for everything. Still if the foreword had (a) only called him sexist, not misogynist and (b) not accused him of normalising slavery and wanting players to kill Vishnu, then I probably wouldn't really have that much of a problem with...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    Reading up on the Jean Wells Palace of the Silver Princess affair, and some TSR alumni still attacking her even today, I kinda got the impression that E Gary Gygax was about the least sexist man in Lake Geneva!
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    I don't believe that in the specific case of Gygax & everything I've seen him write. I don't believe his kind of "benevolent" sexism inspires violence against women. Unlike more Libertarian types, I would not totally dismiss your argument though - I do actually think some fiction material can...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    Honestly, if I believe that hardly any women like Traveller, or hex & chit wargames, but a lot more like Settlers of Catan, Vampire, 4e D&D, especially 5e D&D - I don't think I'm being sexist, never mind misogynistic. But if sexism = any belief in sex differences, then I'm being sexist. I'm...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    So from my reading of this, sexist & misogynist mean the same thing to you, and your definition of misogynist "an attitude that women are by nature lesser than men" is a good definition of sexism, the kind you would typically see in a dictionary. Using miso- indicates at least a strong dislike...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    Going by WoTC's track record I find that highly unlikely.
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    Well there are genuine misogynists out there, and they are often very dangerous to women. I guess it's something I feel quite strongly about. Edit: I don't see a lot of misogyny in daily life thank goodness, mostly second hand accounts, but I've certainly seen it on the Internet. It's pretty...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    1. My impression is that they are saying WoTC shouldn't be insulting him in the intro to a celebration book. I agree with that. 2. They may well have no issues with anything Gygax ever said, or they may feel he shouldn't ever be criticised. I feel free to disagree with them if so. Personally...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    I actually think you're being fairly polite. :D
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    I don't think you followed what I said? Unless you're siding with Elon, which is what an accusation of Whattaboutism would indicate - that I'm trying to deflect from the grave sin Elon identified, by bringing up other offences.
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    If you hate women I would not expect you to voluntarily hire one in a non-menial role. Yes "misogynist" is a much stronger word than "sexist", and I would not use them interchangeably. Gygax did not dislike or hate women, but he wrote some stuff I would call sexist. In particular there's a...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    Yes. I basically agree with Prof DM/Dungeoncraft's take, or Gygax's daughter's take. I always thought Gygax came across a bit sexist in some of his writings. That doesn't make it appropriate to call him a sexist (& several other things) in the intro to a celebration book. It's not a burn in hell...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    Calling someone a misogynist - a hater of women - is certainly an attack in my book. Likewise calling their writing misogynistic. FWIW I'd say the text, and Gygax himself, is sometimes sexist, but nowhere near misogynistic. If Gygax was actually a misogynist he'd never have hired eg Jean Wells...
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    Elon Musk Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" Over Making of Original D&D Passages

    It's basically how University tutorials always work at least here in UK. And it is pretty effective. Usually the tutor doesn't learn much from the responses, but sometimes we do.
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