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For those interested, I've got my alternative rules posted in the House Rules section. I decided that since the rules don't support my view of the way things should be (or at least the way they make sense in my head), I should do as all do and make a variant! Of course, it's only as good as its...

I like the concept of this, but it seems like something that is highly campaign specific. If you were able to come up with easily portable mechanics for it, I'd be all over trying it out. It sounds to me like something that might be better suited to helping GMs plan out individual adventures...

I agree. Even though I'm horrible with trying to make half-this, half-that races, I don't think it should be taken farther than that.

The post with the individual races has been updated with new LA modifiers. At first glance, they actually don't look too bad to me, but I'm open to the input of the experts here.

Well, I like the idea of the sliding scale, if only for the fact that it's easier to implement somewhat universally. With the sliding scale, I still got a LA +4 for the minotaur, which I realize is just one example, but it's worth at least trying and seeing how we are with the new LA numbers.

I like it. Final versions will be in the first post momentarily.

Well, I'll use your sliding scale and update the post above. Then we'll see what sort of balance it appears to be. It looks far better than anything I would come up with otherwise.

Here are the modified versions based on the feedback to this point. I bumped the listen, search, and spot bonuses to +3 to counteract the -1 from a lower wisdom. Since this race lives primarily in the wild, they would be aware of their surroundings, even if they were fairly dull-witted...

Here are the racial progressions for each creature type.

Ok. I've got the basic start to my alternate rule set. I took all the monstrous races out of the SRD (at least all the ones with actual stat blocks) and took their racial levels out. At this point, I *know* that some of the LA numbers are way underpowered. Any advice on what some of these should be?

Well, our current DVR is $14 by itself, since the version with the HDD is also the HighDef version (sux, since we don't have an HDTV), and there's also the "basic" box that is another $4-5/month that we can't take back to them. So we're essentially paying almost $19 for the one box we use and...

Well, thanks for the replies. I really don't think I like the way the system does this with the required racial levels and whatnot. So I'm starting a thread over in House Rules for a discussion on an alternative.

I'm putting this here, since it's sort of a separate discussion from my LA vs ECL thread. Basically, what I'm thinking of doing is separating racial type levels (Fey, Outsider, Giant, etc) from the level adjust of creatures that give specific stats for characters... basically anything that has...

So if you add 5 class levels and had a party of LA +0 characters, they'd have 12 class levels to the 5 for your character. Ick. On the other hand, are there rules for *removing* racial hit dice? Say I wanted to play a satyr, but didn't want to deal with it's 5 racial hit dice. Is it possible to...

Ok, this is something that has always confused me. When you're making a new character, how do you determine what level the character comes in at? For example, let's take a Satyr (LA +2, 5 racial HD) and give it 5 levels of Bard. Is this character supposed to be in a party with the average...

My girlfriend and I are looking at ways to save money on some of our bills, and we thought about cutting our cable bill by about $30-40/mo by dropping a few channels we don't watch and building our own DVR instead of renting theirs (for ~$19/mo). I have tons of spare parts around my house, so...

I made this awhile back for a campaign my friends and I were playing in. We didn't really flesh it out much, just added on a couple gold to the price of an item and kept playing. Looking back, it probably wasn't balanced as it was, but I like the new version much more. Opinions are welcome.

It's weird, because I was actually wondering this exact thing when I woke up this morning. I was half considering statting up the race, but just don't really have the time right now.

Ok, then. What if I added the Wis penalty back in (making it str +2, dex +2, int/wis -2, cha -4) then gave them the scent ability. I am *really* reluctant to drop the cha penalty from -4, as I think it is a core feature of the class. In addition, I'd add the wis and cha penalties to the...

By the way, here is the new version based on drow/orc. I'll repost the elf/orc with it for comparison.