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Totally fair. It just seems like our adventuring days move too quickly to provide those opportunities. Heh…I’m reminded of The Three Musketeers: Porthos: Champagne? Athos: We're in the middle of a chase, Porthos! Porthos: You're right - something red. :)

I think it’s highly unlikely they make any Short Rest changes across the board. Which is why I think the easiest way is to decouple Pact Magic from Short rests. Make it Long rest recharge, with two chances to Channel Patron to recharge in between (to mimic the existing expected Short Rest...

Oh man, I miss black and white ink work so badly…

@Charlaquin, I guess we’ll just have to disagree on that one :). As a player, I just can’t narratively imagine our characters stopping in the middle of any of those situations. It might make a gamist sense, but not story-wise. I don’t want to make it sound like every session is one long...

So, it’s a DM problem if we can’t take a break in the middle of a multi-encounter chase scene? A prison break? A dungeon with monsters around every corner? Taking breaks depends very much on the adventure you’re playing. My DM likes to keep the pressure on, which means less opportunities for...

I understand there’s some strong feelings on this, but I think drawing lines in the sand (“0 out of 10!”) is counter productive. I know I’ve benefited a lot from the conversations over the last few days, and have gone from liking the changes to realizing my issue wasn’t Pact Magic but the...

3 short rests would be glorious. We always seem to be in a situation where it’s too dangerous, or it’s safe and everyone wants a long rest. When you’re the only short rest class, there’s not a lot of onus on the other characters to want a lunch break 20 minutes* after breakfast. *which is my...

Well, yes. The players can rest even if the DM says it’s risky. And then the DM sends in monsters to spoil the rest, because they did warn you. If the DM doesn’t want you to rest right then and there for whatever reason, it’s not happening.

It would certainly do it for me (assuming I’m understanding you correctly).

No, I think they mean class feature which basically replaces a short rest for spell recharge. So, I’d say twice per long rest is right. Unless I’m way off my mark.

I definitely think it’s too early to make that call. Just look how much discussions have popped up in just one day. Although there are certainly those who think Pact Magic needs adjusting (I’m one of them), that doesn’t mean everyone thinks Vancian is the way to go. The only thing I think we...

Especially if the number one complaint they had with Warlocks was not enough slots :). Anyway, I don't think anyone ever accused Warlocks of out-performing traditional casters.

I like the idea of Meditation (or Channel Patron, or what have you), but I don't think there's any point limiting them to one at low levels. Right now, it's (theoretically) expected they can take 2 Short Rests per long rest. I think that's how many Meditations they should get. Keeps it...

I have to admit I sort of like them. But I’m weird in that I’ve always enjoyed his pencils more than the finished paintings :)

I don’t see any reason they couldn’t keep Pact Magic and also some of the other changes. Best of both worlds!

Yeah, that sounds good, and is likely to be my feedback as well (unless experimenting with the new version shows something surprising).

That would probably work. Actually, that would be great.

It’s not so much the limited magic that bothered me. It was the recharge tied to the short rest that became frustrating. In a perfect world where we always got the recommended SR after 2-3 encounters, it would probably work out. But in practice, that rarely seems to happen. Either there’s...

Fair enough. But then we’re back to the question of whether an extra paragraph in the PHB would be enough to stop someone inclined to fist fight…

If this is an AL problem (which would make sense, since where else would you be gaming with complete strangers), wouldn’t it make sense for it to be an AL solution, not a core book one? I know nothing about AL (which is probably why this potential issue baffles me), but isn’t there a set of AL...