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Magic can work weirdly. This spell is an example of counterintuitive magic, which is why it's not often taught in mage schools, it takes a certain APTITUDE for soul-magic. What you're actually doing is binding the soul of your enemy and your ally together, and converting that binding into...

No. A->B => ~B->~A All staff implements are quarterstaffs means that anything that isn't a quarterstaff isn't a staff implement. You really need to stop trying to refute arguments which no-one is making. While it is technically possible (by raw) to have a quarterstaff that isn't a staff...

Yes. According to that section, all staff implements are quarterstaffs So, syllogism time: If all A are B And C is not B Then C is not A If all staff implements are quarterstaffs And half a quarterstaff is not a quarterstaff Then half a quarterstaff is not a staff implement. Is the primary...

Perhaps if you got him playing an assassin, with lots of poisons and stuff he can apply to weapons? Skirt the edges of the combat, preparing for a chance to strike... It's not exactly optimal play for an assassin, but I suspect that an assassin is the optimal class for that kind of play.

Indeed. Because there is no other definition of a heavy blade or light blade than as a weapon group. There is also a type of implement called a "staff" with it's own section of description. Because in one case the only option is that they are talking about a weapon group. In the other case I...

The text in the implement section about staffs would beg to differ about it referring to a weapon group. It states that a staff is an implement type, that corresponds to the quarterstaff. Not any weapon of the staff weapon group; it specifically states the quarterstaff. At the time, there was...

Wielding a staff-group weapon, that isn't a quarterstaff, (it is in fact part of a quarterstaff) in each hand. If staff-group weapons are all staff-implements, then it works. But staff-implements state that they are quarterstaffs. So you can't have a staff-implement that is "the offhand end of...

CovertOps. Do you WANT what you're arguing to be true? If so, try imagining a world where you wanted it to be false. Would you still believe it? Would you still believe that one quarterstaff=a quarterstaff in each hand? I know what I would argue if I wanted my current belief to be false, and...

When you wield a double weapon, you wield it in both hands. This is like wielding a weapon in each hand, and can be used for such purposes. It is NOT like wielding the double weapon in each hand (impossible, because double weapons are by definition two-handed) Again, I ask, if I gave you...

The quarterstaff is wielded in both hands. There is a weapon wielded in each hand (an end of the quarterstaff) but the quarterstaff itself is wielded in both hands, If I promised you ten thousand bags, each containing $10, how much money would you expect to end up with?

Note that you only use the rules for using it as a weapon when... using it as a weapon. DIS applies to using it as an implement. When using it as an implement you don't get to use the rules for using it as a weapon.

The actual text, And a couple of comments: It's not a push, it's a slide, so they can be moved towards you, away from you, or any other direction. You can throw them off a ledge if your ally is on the ledge. The slide must end adjacent to an ally, they can then proceed to fall from there...

So, when I hold an Urgrosh, I'm holding an urgrosh (a double weapon) in each hand?

I just don't think marking can really work for a ranged defender in some ways. It doesn't seem quite the right mechanic for them. My idea of a mechanic for a ranged defender is Guarding. The RD picks an Ally to Guard. Any enemy (that isn't marked by that Ally) that attacks that ally gets shot.

Other than a quarterstaff? Yes, see below Yes, it is a different staff from a quarterstaff. Look, we know that WotC overload words. For example: Mace. My argument is based solely on RAW. Your argument requires that the word "staff" not be overloaded; that it refers to precisely one thing; a...

Perhaps I missed a rules change. In PHB1 it is stated that a Staff Implement is a Quarterstaff Weapon. Where is it stated that all Staff Weapons (not just Quarterstaffs) are Staff Implements?

In order to count as a staff implement, a weapon must be a quarterstaff. The off-hand end of a quarterstaff is not, of itself, a quarterstaff. Just like the spear end of an urgrosh is not, by itself, an urgrosh. Thus, even when weilding a quarterstaff as two weapons, you are only wielding one...

Read the text of the feat. You must wield an implement in each hand. If I pick up the laptop I'm on, using both hands, am I holding a laptop in each hand? No. I'm holding one in both hands.

So, if Customer Service can over-rule RAW, DIS works with a single quarterstaff if you have Staff Fighting.

Our current 4e setting is very inclusive. However, I do want to do a less inclusive setting at some point. A world of empires, where the PCs are from a mountainous region. Dwarves, half-dwarves, raptorans, goliaths, humans, gnomes, halflings and some Genasi will be common. (oh and...