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Roll 6d20 and keep the results in order and build your character around that. Here are some examples. 17+1 Str, 17+1 Dex, 16 Con, 1 Int, 8 Wis, 20 Cha I'm a naked vhuman Frenzy Barbarian with the tavern brawler feat at level 1. I'm not smart enough to use a weapon or be any other class than...

Beastmaster Ranger with a Quipper as his companion. He has to carry it around in a glass fish bowl. But seriously, HOW do you mean create the worst character? You can make a Barbarian with 8 Str, 8 Dex, 8 Con, 15 Int, 15 Wis, and 15 Cha if you want to, and I promise you he would be terrible...

I think I'd only take 2 levels of Fighter just for Fighting Style, Second Wind, and Action Surge. If you take too many Fighter levels, your Cleric spell progression will be laughably behind. This character will be very tanky but you're not going to be able to(or want to) rely on your weapon for...

Sometimes taking the attack action is a viable option for any character that is designed to be in or near melee. That's why Divine Strike exists. I do like the idea of being able to make a weapon attack after casting a spell, but it's almost too good unless it's granted at higher levels, or...

So again, the point of this thread was not to bring the War Cleric up to par with the Fighter in fighting prowess. It's that it's generally lacking in melee even when compared to some of the other domains. All I'm saying is, I think the War Cleric SHOULD be the best domain for melee. I think...

Did anybody mention giving it to the Tempest Cleric for a couple of max damage bolts a day? hehe

I agree with you that 1) is not quite good enough on it's own and 2) is probably a little too good. How about War Priest being a reaction attack instead? Possibly triggered by either you getting attacked or by an ally within 5ft of you getting attacked? Edit: Actually, the more I think...

Again, I don't think the War Cleric should be as good at fighting as a Fighter, I just think it should probably be the best domain at fighting.

Huh? Spiritual Weapon is a bonus action spell that can be used for pretty much an entire encounter. Can scale up and doesn't even require concentration, so unless you're a War Cleric with a higher Str than Wis, and you're using a magic Greatsword or similar, You'll be better off using Spiritual...

Again, the biggest problem with the War Priest's bonus attack is that is vastly overshadowed by a common class spell, Spiritual Weapon. Not only does Spiritual Weapon lack the restriction, it will easily out damage the War Priest attack for most of your career. I mean even if you take the attack...

I know the Cleric class is never going to be on par with the Fighter or Paladin in melee nor is it meant to be. My problem with the War Cleric is, it's not even the best Cleric at being a War Cleric. I LOVE the Tempest domain and yes it is a great example of a better melee Cleric. I just...

I just read over the thread "Best War Cleric" and it had me thinking, but that thread was an older thread that recently got necro'd so I figured I would just make a new thread about it. It seems that the War Cleric is generally regarded as lacking when compared to some of the other "melee"...

It's a really good item to have for some level 7 characters, but it's not completely broken. Being able to blast off 4-6 regular bolts a day(or one really big one) without using spell slots is going to be great for them. Plan accordingly.

As far as spells go, you can prepare a number equal to your Wis mod + Cleric level Cantrips 1. Guidance - maybe best cantrip in the game 2. Sacred Flame - your only damage cantrip. Deals no damage on passed save though so I don't always love it. 3. Spare the Dying - not a popular choice, but if...

Ugh! I hate the standard array lol Are you sure you can't use point buy? Vhuman. 16 Str, 12 Dex, 13 Con, 8 Int, 16 Wis, 10 Cha HAM at level 1 Res(Con) at level 4 +2 Wis at level 8 You could switch HAM with Res is you want Hill Dwarf 14 Str, 12 Dex, 14 Con, 10 Int, 16 Wis, 8 Cha +2 to...

Sure but the main reason to go for Str is to be able to wear Heavy Armor without penalty. Dwarves don't suffer penalty to wear heavy armor. Otherwise, Dex is much more useful to have, and I really hate dumping it with any build.

You already have a 1d8+Wis bonus attack starting at level 3. That's why I don't care for PAM on Clerics. Sentinel is fun on a Tempest Cleric if you can afford it. You attack my friend, I attack you. You attack me, I shock you. Plus it keeps them in your Spirit Guardians.

Keep in mind that while being able to heal is great, I did not spend a lot of time healing in combat with my Tempest Cleric, usually, if I had to choose between healing a buddy, or killing a baddie, I chose to kill. Sometimes, I even KO'd my own friends that would get caught in a maximized...

It was the single funnest character I have ever played in 5e.

Str builds get you +1 to AC, opens up more melee weapon options, but your initiative will take a hit. Dex builds take the -1 hit to AC, has more ranged weapon options, and has a much better initiative. Dex is generally more useful than Str. You'll want Athlete proficiency if Str, an Acrobatics...