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DOWNVOTES ARE 3 Banshee 19-3=16 Now that the games are done, we can get rid of you... Ghost 18 Ghoul 16 Lich 7 Revenant 16+1=17 Shadow 17 Skeleton 16 Spectre 11 Vampire 20 Wight 18 Wraith 21

Dude... he answered that in his OP, directly behind what you mentioned... And he also very politely requested... I mean... c'mon. Just help the brother out! Laurefindel, I obviously haven't checked this out for balance and whatnot, but you could always parallel 1e. Normal progression up...

Banshee 19 Ghost 24 Ghoul 23 Lich 14 Mummy 7-3=4 Mummy Lord 3+1=4 Once again forced by both common sense and source material to right the wrongs of this rating. Revenant 20 Shadow 23 Skeleton 22 Spectre 13 Vampire 20 Wight 17 Wraith 23

I've wondered the same thing. I get that it's a survivor thread, so anything goes. But what is nonsensical to me is that you'll have people downvoting the Mummy Lord while upvoting the "basic" Mummy. Which is ironic for two reasons: 1) the basic mummy is boring, and 2) the mummy lord is the one...

DOWNVOTES ARE 3 Banshee 19 Demilich 4 Ghast 12 Ghost 24 Ghoul 21 Lich 20 Mummy 12-3=9 And here I thought I’d finally be able to avoid downvoting the Mummy, Mummy Lord 14+1=15 but then someone downvoted the master... Nightwalker 7 Revenant 23 Shadow 23 Skeleton 20 Spectre 18 Vampire 21 Wight 16...

This. Exactly this. I also find it interesting that part of the argument that is repeatedly raised in this thread against Expertise includes the Rogue's ability when buffed with multiple magic sources. If I make a master thief, I expect him to be a master without having to be buffed up by his...

DOWNVOTES ARE 3 Banshee 20 Demilich 17 Ghast 15 Ghost 22 Ghoul 21 Lich 21 Mummy 18-3=15 Mummy Lord 12+1=13 Working to set things aright once more. Nightwalker 16 Revenant 25 Shadow 23 Skeleton 24 Skull Lord 10 Spectre 21 Vampire 22 Wight 19 Wraith 26

I LOVE Skill Challenges. I think they are great, and yes, I also think that having them entail risk of damage/death is a good thing. So... absolutely worth having. The only thing that I'd suggest that is sort of a rule of thumb is to remember that since Skill Challenges are narrative, be...

DOWNVOTES = 3 Banshee 18 Demilich 22 Dracolich 14 Ghast 18 Ghost 22 Ghoul 24 Lich 19 Mummy 16 Mummy Lord 15 Nightwalker 19 Revenant 23 Shadow 23 Skeleton 25 Skull Lord 14 Spawn of Kyuss 5 Spectre 21 Vampire 20 Wight 19 Wraith 26 Votes from Post 301 got skipped... this should be right.

DOWNVOTES = 3 Banshee 20 Demilich 22 Dracolich 23 Ghast 18 Ghost 21 Ghoul 24 Lich 20 Mummy 19-3=16 So we’ll just correct this little imbalance... Mummy Lord 17+1=18 ...and put the master back on top. Nightwalker 19 Revenant 23 Shadow 23 Skeleton 25 Skull Lord 16 Spawn of Kyuss 8 Spectre 21...

I know what you said in the OP. But I think you were wrong then, and I think you are still wrong now. There is only a "problem" (which isn't even really a problem) with Expertise if you allow multiclassing - which is an optional rule. If you feel it is problematic, the far simpler and better...

One can hope. It would be nice if the Guild had some adventures in the proper D&D setting!

This. Expertise does not break or harm the game as is, and changing it profits nothing. Changing a base feature because of an optional rule (Multiclassing) is backwards. Instead, the better solution is to monitor or fix multiclassing. If it is that much of a concern, then simply don't allow...

DOWNVOTES = 3. Also, after posting always check to see the post you just cut-and-pasted is still the one just above yours Banshee 24 Boneclaw 10 Death Knight 12 Demilich 24 Dracolich 22 Flameskull 11 Ghast 18 Ghost 22 Ghoul 23 Lich 23 Mummy 22-3= 19 Because a servant is not greater than his...

Oh, I'm familiar with Kyuss. But SPAWN OF KYUSS is a much cooler band name. Missed opportunity for them! EDIT: Whoops... I see almost the exact same comment was made earlier. That's double the endorsement for adding the Spawn of... !

And let's face it... if there were a band called Spawn of Kyuss, we'd all want to listen to it, even if just to see what their sound was!

DOWNVOTES ARE 3 Banshee 23 Bone Naga 11 Boneclaw 15 Death Knight 14+1=15 Haven't shown the love to this one yet... Demilich 22 Dracolich 24 Flameskull 14 Ghast 18 Ghost 25 Ghoul 22 Lich 25 Mind Flayer Lich 7-3=4 Time to get rid of the aberrations so we can look at the worthwhile undead...

DOWNVOTES ARE 3. Banshee 22 Bone Naga 14 Boneclaw 18 Death Knight 16 Deathlock 9+1 = 10 Just because I kind of like them! Demilich 23 Dracolich 22 Flameskull 14 Ghast 18 Ghost 23 Ghoul 24 Lich 24 Mind Flayer Lich 19-3 = 16 Now to get this next aberration of the list of my undead! Minotaur...

DOWNVOTES ARE THREE Banshee 26 Bodak 3 Bone Naga 20 Boneclaw 20 Death Knight 19 Death Tyrant 10-3 = 7 The culling of lame-osity continues! Deathlock 12 Demilich 22 Dracolich 22 Eidolon 18 Flameskull 14 Ghast 18 Ghost 22 Ghoul 23 Lich 21 Mind Flayer Lich 19 Minotaur Skeleton 13 Mummy 23 Mummy...

Correcting for my skipped post... Banshee 24 Bodak 12 Bone Naga 20 Boneclaw 20 Crawling Claw 6 Death Knight 18 Death Tyrant 10 Deathlock 12 Demilich 21 Dracolich 21 Eidolon 21 Flameskull 14 Ghast 18 Ghost 22 Ghoul 21 Lich 18 Mind Flayer Lich 19 Minotaur Skeleton 18 Mummy 23 Mummy Lord 26...