Search results

I'll just reprint what I wrote earlier here as counter arguement. Under the Flanking Defender row, melee gets a +2, ranged has a dash. By comparison, On Higher Ground give +1 to melee and +0 to ranged. Prone gives -4 to melee and a dash with an exception for crossbows to ranged. Given what is...

Not quite true, as you don't need appear to need to threaten yourself to flank. I don't consider that an unreasonable interpretation, but given the hair-spliting nature of this debate, I would avoid making the claim as it only serves to add more posts refuting it.

Actually, the only thing that is written explicitly is what melee does. Nothing whatsoever is said about range, but lets take a look at all the available data with comentary: Nothing much to say here that hasn't already been said, but I will point out that it only explicitly talks about melee...

That would be correct. I see paragraph 2 as a clearly linked to the first paragraph, meant to clarify positioning, not as a separate way to establish a flank. I have pointed out in other posts what the other side was arguing when I thought someone didn't understand. Can't stand someone who I...

The gnome doesn't get a sneak attack because he is attacking a foe that is not threatened by an ally from the opposite side. The elf doesn't get a sneak attack because he isn't using a melee weapon and his foe isn't flat-footed.

The funny thing is, it really isn't that big a deal. I think it is more to the benifit of players that ranged flanking doesn't work. A GM has far more at his disposal to set it up then the players do.

To Starglim: You would be astounded by what isn't considered obvious. To Hypersmurf: No. No. No. Doubt it.

:heh: Okay, let me try that question again: Where is it written that you are only flanking during your attack? (what I get for contradicting Hypersmurf...)

Though your words oft hold wisdom, I must respectfully disagree with you. That is simply when you get the bonus for flanking. It no more says that you are only flanking when you attack then the second paragraph says you only flank in melee.

Show me where it says that.

ROFL!!!! I second the thanks for a good laugh!

Please never post that way again. Ever. It screws up the screen so that it extends beyond the bounds of the monitor.

I don't follow. Nothing in the text for flanking says that the defender is only flanked during the attack. It says what the bonus is when you attack someone who is flanked. Addendium to formian question: What if Adventurer #1 was using two weapons, full attacks, and splits his attacks...

The problem is, I keep seeing the claim that formians become unflankable if you can't flank with ranged weapons. Repeating questions for those who hold that belief: Let us say, for the sake of argument, that the formian queen within 50 miles only has two formians left. These two formians (A...

Couldn't agree with you more, simply trying to point out where people are ignoring the other sides argument. No debate happens if you don't address what the other person is saying.

I keep seeing this and I really don't follow how it is the case, so let put forth an example. Let us say, for the sake of argument, that the formian queen within 50 miles only has two formians left. These two formians (A and B) encounter 3 adventurers (1, 2 and 3). During the fight, the two...

For the record, you will notice the cited text doesn't actually SAY that the attacker has to threaten. I think the confusion for some people comes from not linking the two paragraphs as the transitive sentence seems to indicate. Only by reading the second paragraph in isolation do I see any...

Whereas I don't disagree with you, I like to put up the polls to get some perspective on the debates which usually become endurance contests.

Too late, I am afraid, thanks though. I also realized that the sneak attack portion wasn't the important part and dropped it from the poll.