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So first I want to say this was an one-off event and the GM admitted they did not handle it well. Overall it has been a good campaign. And yeah, it was a tad frustrating when it happened, but I also think it was interesting. It was produced by "secret myth" thinking clashing with a system that...

So this seem to be an attempt at semantic chicanery, where you first identify that mysteries have some constraints about what sort of things can be said and then then proceed like any constraints on what can be said would produce a mystery. That's why I was not getting it, as this is so...

No, it is a terrible roleplaying tool and leads to inane debates and simplistic NPCs. It would be better if it did not exist at all. It puts people on the wrong way of thinking from the get go.

Obviously. And I don't think anyone has argued otherwise. In any case, I am really not following what your point even is anymore, let alone how these quoted bits relate to it.

Indeed. I for one am not satisfied until it is completely gone!

None of this really answers to the questions raised. How is this not the players and the GM taking turns to say things about the fiction? How does this produce independent truths that can be discovered, that are not authored by some participant?

Yeah, I've read it. Now please quote a rule and explain step by step how it achieves what you claim.

Yes and?

Perhaps. Though it might make the difference you mention less difficult to tell, if someone would to demonstrate it rather than to just claim it.

Other, as it would be the best if it simply wouldn't exist at all, but at least in 5e it is very easy to remove as there are almost no mechanics that refer to it.

Yeah, I get that, but it has weird results when it works differently depending are you in a score or not. And IIRC the book addresses the gear in freeplay. Not a huge deal or anything, but still. How clear the books are how much you should plan and how how fluid the myth should be. I think our...

Do they though? I see lawyers and judges constantly disagreeing on what a given law means. (Granted, mostly in USA, which seem to have particularly shoddy laws.) Obviously. Laws are a social construct mathematics are not.

I think I have experience of that. It is still GM and and the players taking turns of deciding this, there merely are guidelines and limitations regarding what and when they're allowed to decide. (And there indeed are some such limitations in every RPG, though in some they certainly are far more...

I mean isn't it still basically that, you just at some point randomise who gets to say things?

It turns out these "correct techniques" are not actually that hard and some people just overcomplicate things?

Then we have different experience. Now I've hoped that 5e would have more robust skill section with example DCs and stuff like that, but I have my own internal benchmarks for that stuff, so I manage. And the system seems quite sufficient for the way I run games. You can just treat most stuff via...

I don't quite understand what sort of issues you're having and what sort of answers you would want for them. I haven't had any issues really. I think it is weird that the game so clearly denotes the score as separate thing which influences how certain abilities and equipment and some other...

Yeah, perhaps that was an issue with the paleo-D&D, but I never played those old editions that much and I have forgotten most of it anyway. Interestingly enough I have recently been mildly annoyed with Blades in the Dark for having sorta similar issue, where certain mechanics assume you're doing...

Yes. Which matters for whether it is a real mystery. Whether it had an objective answer before the investigation began determines whether you can really be solving it. This is not that hard. Like someone said before, a riddle without a predetermined answer is not really a riddle, it is just a...

To me it is blindingly obvious that things like logic and mathematics have independent objective existence or at least are describing something that has. They produce similar results regardless of who is applying them. (Unless you make a mistake, which again requires that there is some objective...