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I'm not sure I follow you? Do you mean tracking them would be worth it if it lead to interesting choices, but due the way rules currently are it doesn't? Because I'd agree with that.

So for people who track ammunition in 5e, how often it actually happens that the characters run out of ammo? And if they do, how often it was just because the player forgot to announce that their character bought arrows last time they visited a settlement even though that's probably something...

There just is no point. Arrows are light and cheap enough that it is trivial to bring enough to never run out. I don’t mind resource tracking, but doing so makes only sense with resources that are actually scarce and could run out.

I use gritty rests, so the eight hour short rests happens roughly once a day when the characters sleep.

What? Do people in your setting know who is a PC and who isn't?

Why? It is obviously utterly ludicrous. Why on Earth would being a PC affect your creature type? Being a PC isn't diegetic.

What? That's even more stupid.

"All fiction is inauthentic." OK, that certainly is a take. One I do not share, and one I think is very counterproductive attitude. I think one needs to pursue authenticity, and declaring it to be impossible from the get go probably is not going to lead to increased authenticity. Several...

I quite liked this scenario. And yeas, unless the debate between the PC knights about whether to leave or stay was handled via mechanics (and there was no mention of it, so I assume not) then this is basically how I like things to operate. "Only legitimate" is perhaps a bit stronger I'd put...

But if the framing and narration was convincing and evocative enough that the player would feel that the natural outcome would be that their character is convinced, smitten etc, then you didn't need the rules to tell them that! Are you using this in some weird technical sense or something? You...

You have said you don't accept it, you however have failed to explain why this actually doesn't happen. Roll determines character is in love with an NPC: goals affected. A character convinces another that they should stop pursuing their love: goals affected. A lot of posters seem to have hard...

However you look at it, gith are pretty disappointing abominations. They're just some guys. There really isn't anything particularly weird let alone eldritch about them.

But how is that possible? In the real worlds there was no rules or the GM who forced you to act this way, yet you did! Yes, in my games the characters have quite often been goaded by the NPCs to do questionable things. Yet no rules forced them to. I just created a situation where the...

You are completely ignoring my point. Whilst it is possible that what @andreszarta suggests happens, there is no need to assume that it always or even usually does. In real world there are no rules or GM fiat to end arguments, yet people do not get stuck for arguing for days, unable to do...

Indeed. But that is due the nature of the internet discussion. We can check this thread from time to time, drop a post, and continue to do other things. Continuing the debate doesn't actually make our lives to "get stuck." We could imagine an analogous situation in a game where a two characters...

So? What that has to do with anything?

So do you in the real life (outside the internet) get stuck in endless arguments that go nowhere and never end and you just keep doing it and doing it because there are no dice or GM fiat to settle it? Like if you and your partner cannot agree on what to make for dinner do you just continue...

Meaning it is stuff that other magic can already do.

No, there still is a default associated ability score. I think using different one is a optional rule or something. So unless otherwise specified, persuasion check is just a shorter way to say charisma + persuasion check.

So how do you envision this "not conceding" thus the game stalling actually occurring? Like the players just keep talking and talking, hour after hour, and it just keeps going on and on like this thread? Because that just doesn't happen. To me it seems that you're produced this weird imaginary...