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Fortunate Fate in Magic of Faerun. Level 7 cleric. 10 min / level, if target dropped below zero - BOOM - Heal cast on target. Pretty ridiculous spell. Long duration made it standard buff at those levels when I was running RttToEE, where it came in handy.

Yup, it's a bit strange that two elves, 130 years old are both, say Wiz level 1s. Then year when both are 131, one has been adventuring for a year and: "Grasshair, how ya been you old pointyear?" "Naah, same ole same ole dicking around in the woods, and you, Twinkleass?" "As a matter of fact I...

Some of the worst examples of self-reference have been, surprisingly, with D&D from the start. Take for example the gelatinous cube. It's a monster evolved to living on a graph paper. Somehow its evolution knew that the monster only exists in a game that's played with maps drawn on square graph...

Maybe even Warforged shouldn't be written of as gaming porn straight off. They can be used to explore themes similar in Frankenstein, Asimovs robots, etc.. which are more about human than their creations anyway. Where Jack7 might see gaming porn, I see roleplaying opportunities. Essentially a...

Can you provide a direct quote for the first point? One poster tried to find, but could only come up with: "They were not working on 4th Edition .. that would force players to use miniatures."

d00d, you wrote "pornography" like 7 times in that long-ass ramble :confused: . .. I mean, damn. There's no pr0n in any edition of D&D that I've seen, but your argumentative style is suspect anyway, since it requires redefining so many commonly understood words. Yes, your definition for...

The there was the other misquote, that they "weren't working on new edition of D&D". It was missing the part ".. that will require the use of miniatures."

Daaamn you have a lot of good memories! :cool: Well, the 3E rose colored glasses are next years model, got em bootlegged from China. Apparently 3E was written by Monte Zook and featured "Firebulls" .. weird, but good, memories :p

Well, there should still be variations in the EL from -5 APL to +5 APL, at least. That should keep things varied. And I'm sure he was speaking in averages.

Yeah, I semi-agree :) Interesting to see how they've changed it - they'll have to be extra careful when tampering with sacred cows. Other than that, I don't know what to say, IMO the math works pretty good in later levels already in 3E. But I'm sure I've fallen victim to my 3E rose colored...

Yeah, it is a rip-off. I'll never play; that'll teach the IRS to smooch on my lottery winnings :) Nah, actually here in Finland it's tax free, and you get the advertised amount.

4E kicked me in the nads and took my lunch money. Nah, just kidding. 4E is cluttering my favorite boards with nerd rage :p Why would people think this way? Did WotC lie to them before?

And if DI cost $99.95 a month it would be equivalent to selling you 100-120 books a year. w00t!

Ain't that the truth. There's certain irony in this thread - trying to make intellectual argument for realism in D&D. Pfft.

BTW, anyone remember that old Nodwick in Dragon, where it turned out that halflings, gnomes and dwarves are the same race, just with fake beards etc.. The reasoning was that some gygax dude had paid one short race money for sourcebooking them, so the same race decided to make it triple! :lol:

About long term goals: 3E is the first edition where Adventure Paths from 1-20 levels became somewhat standard form for long campaigns (the first AP wasn't really an AP, but disjointed adventures). Long campaigns did exist before, of course, but the slow advancement meant that gaining power for...

Yup, but my response was related to making D&D more family oriented, to which I don't think Asmodeus as god has no relation. BTW, doesn't 'deus' mean god?

If this was a factor in whether an RPG was RPG PORNZOR or not, it would automatically mean that any scifi rpg would be rpg porn. I don't believe that - more complicated issues of humanity can be explored in wholly non-historical (fantastic?) surroundings, and this is a very common theme in...

Nawh Picture two adventure premises: a) Fighting Devils lead by Asmodeus in Hell b) Fighting Naughties lead by Lil' Asmo in Heck I'll choose a) every time :]

Dang .. I was hoping for "..long and profanely."