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Correct. I wasn't trying to imply that it was unbalanced, just that that description makes me think "overpowered!"...which is just not my style of D&D/Fantasy RPG game. I don't doubt that 4E has some really good things going for it, and I certainly hope they're not thrown out with what seems...

Yeah, that does sound cool. Honestly, I don't even know what this sentence means. Ok, starting to sound overpowered. Descriptions like this reinforce why I avoided 4E. That's the game for you, but it's so far away from the version of D&D I want to play. Which is fine – I didn't complain...

BOOM! Thanks for the headsup!!! :D

You're probably right Defcon, but moving Monk to PRIESTS gives 3 classes to each category, symmetry! LOL Oh and what you said about using multiclassing for straddling two class groups, I couldn't agree more.

Heh, fair enough. Yeah, I don't know what those things (Arcane Archer, Hexblade) are...shows my vintage :D

Frosty, I agree with Stromonu – a monk is a type of priest. Yeah they can bash people up and sneak around, but that's because of their dedication to a higher calling. Rock on.

BOOM! Looks like shape changing will be removed from the Druid!! (Just joking.)

I know ;) Yes, that would be good, a core druid that didn't have shapeshifting. Oh well, I'll just go with the flow as generally I like the direction Next is going.

I could do with one of these at work, thanks.

Very interested to know what were the last dozen fantasy/sci-fi books you read. (For me it was the Wurst/Fiest Empire Trilogy, but I couldn't finish book 2. Before that it was the Scott Bakker books – the first trilogy and then the next 2 books and annoyed at having to wait for the last one, lol).

It's not a real argument (at least not from me). I'm just putting forward that I loathe the idea of shape changing druids and one or two others agree. I guess what I was initially disappointed with was that there didn't seem an easy way to remove this class feature but 1of3's suggestion solved...

Rock on - good suggestion!

What is "type4"? I'll have to do some research when I get home and check out earlier versions, just to give myself a better context in which to make this whinge.

Druids and shape changing – I don't like it!! Ok I'm going to be grumpy. What is with Druids and shape changing?? It's so lame, I hate it with a passion. It makes the Druid a non-playable/gm-able class for me. Where did it come from??? Rant over. Other than that I'm really enjoying this final...

I sort of think that small team skirmish combat *is* mass combat. In other words, a small team is bigger than a group of adventurers. I always wonder, if the local lord is having a problem with an incursion of orcs, and over there is the cave system they are coming from, why does he hire a...

You still do...or no longer? Man I love me some (D&D-style fantasy) GURPS.

I agree with you, the posing is very dorky. OTOH, I really like the way the faces have been drawn (they're all a bit stern, but they don't look like cartoon characters). Except the guy on the far left. He needs to be killed off in the first combat. Oh he's an *Elf*, so yeah, kill him off ASAP.

Couldn't agree more <thumbs up>. By the way, I'm neither "mad or sad" about this fact. In fact I've been enjoying playing with the rules they've been giving us and I'm a lot more likely to put money down for 5E that 4E (of which WotC got zero $ from me). I'm just aware that despite what they...

I actually don't know who Drizzt is. I think I missed something... I'm sure there are people at WotC/Hasbro who would be perfectly happy if everyone played exactly the same D&D if that means making more money. They're not bringing out a new version of D&D to make you (or me) happy. They are...

I agree with you. I thought that was one of the good things about D&D3+...you could have a Strength of 12 and you got a +1! Compare that with AD&D1e... And someone with a Strength of 18 should be (IMHO) one of the strongest people in the world (99.9 percentile), maybe looking like The Rock or...