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Story arc: either the Players are proactive with their Goals, or the Gm is ready to go. As Gm I don't like to waste prep, but as a Player I like to have a say in the direction the Story goes. Also IME at the Table negotiations before play are very difficult with most players/Gms ;) so I'd have...

Funny thing is, we tried some videogames recently and we had the same problem! The latest version of Fist of the Northstar: after the combat tutorial we stuck at the very beginning of game, outside the walls of a town, we could not find a way in. Lots of npc repeating the same lines when talked...

Re: Adventure, I see Stakes, something that is wanted by the Party and a couple of Factions/Npcs: a situation that fosters a series of small Conflicts having an immediate Goal, albeit small, that gets Players closer to control the Stake, and, in the process, producing fiction regulated by rules...

Would someone please summarize char gen and action system in PF2, for what is known? Thanks

Dense thread. I'm quoting the bit that is frequently overlooked, IME, by players and GMs alike. The "traps" of task resolution with implied intent ;)

"Let five years pass" ... this is something that scares trad Gms IME. When resuming warhammer 2e last year, I proposed to let some time pass: new careers for older Pcs, new Npcs and situations to start with, even if continuing the same overall storyline-big plot behind the scenes... instead...

Maxperson, why do you think the weekly long rests won't be enough to solve the adv day problem?

Sadras, now what are page 42 and residuum?? :D (Becmi, a bit of Ad&d and 3e, here, long time ago)

Hussar, would you elaborate on how aren't so different your 4e and 5e games? On 4e combat, from what I understand, it looks similar to the crunch heavy Swords&Sorcery boardgame I played last year. Also curious about 2e vs 5e fighters ;)

This is interesting. So which mechanics are in 5e supporting/enforcing "the day" as base unit of play? (I barely know of the short/long rest economy)

Thanks for the answer. I agree, btw, otherwise, paradoxically, one could solve social situation with fireballs. Which actually happened, in DW I run, by a new player. It took some time to reach a point in the story when he would not, being at risk the life of a Pc... Anyway it just picked my...

How does a Fireball work: it pops up around the target, or flies from caster to target?

So preventing use of fireballs as a solution to exploration/social challenges. Also making an exploration something that takes time and effort. Were you using 4e SC, or 5e? If the latter, how does it adjudicate success or failure in that Live Critters scenario?

Yes. Turjan of Mir competes with other Mages, creates humanoid and speculates on their fatalism, visits strange places using magic... while the saga of Cugel the clever is an episodic long journey thru the continent, farce and black humour style, strange magic items and creatures

I suggest reading the books. They are in form of collected short stories, some loose, others connected. Highly enjoyable.

Thanks. Wow, almost 400 pages!

Mad arab, HoTL is acronym for? Did you post a document of your 4e hack game? I'd like to read it.

the roads to hell are paved with good intentions :D

Very good examination pemerton The last bit: Fidelity seems the key word. I was looking for a counter catch-phrase to Story Now, when talking with friends, because usual terms like Narr, Trad, immersion, simulation, are not immediately understood from casual gamers... and The Right to Dream...

Got it. Thanks for the explanation