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This is the actual text of the new divine challenge as seen in Keep on the Shadowfell: Divine Challenge At-Will Divine, Radiant Minor Action Close burst 5 Target: One creature in burst Effect: You mark the target. If the creature was already marked, your mark supersedes the previous one. The...

I'd like to see some of the PC's abilities. Namely the fighter/wizard/rogue/cleric (in that order). :)

I don's uppose you'd like to post some of the other characters abilties?

That makes me a sad panda. I was looking forward to playing with some old buddies right after release. :(

Just bumping to let other people read it if they haven't already. :)

Anyone else get the feeling from this that the game table won't be available from launch? That's definate sucktatude. :(

I'm probably alone in this, but when I first saw the picture and read up on them the first thing I thought of was the creature from Jeepers Creepers.

You can see a round by round example here: http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=223994

I probably shouldn't say it, but Wal-Mart did ship the Star Wars Saga book out early so people had it days in advance of the release date...

Well I think it's clear with the number of people saying the tradeoff is worth it, and the number of people that say it's not worth it, that they got it right. It's clearly not a MUST have option and it's clearly not a completely terrible option, and that sounds balanced to me.

Hey no problem. :) Well when I say unlimited orcs, I'm just implying a number greater then is neccessary to define. Take the Lord of the Rings movie where all the orcs come crawling out of the wordwork. There weren't really unlimited orcs there, BUT there were so many that there was no way for...

Anyone want to run a minion encounter with 24 of these bad boys? (I stated them up a while ago) Zombie Minion Level 1 Minion Medium Undead XP 25 Initiative +0 Senses Perception +0 HP A minion dies when hit by an attack that deals damage. AC 12; Fortitude 13, Reflex 10, Will 10; Speed 6 m Slam...

Well I disagree. I don't see why a skill challenge can't be combined with combat. In my example I could have just made the player do a search/disable. Sure, but instead I wanted to make the scene more dramatic, more edge of the seat. YMMV.

I'm sure that it probably states that somewhere too. BUT throughout the entire game the players fate is in the hands of the random nature of dice. Also, I mean it's an adventure movie staple to be in some IMPOSSIBLE situation, where the walls are closing in or the room is filling up with water...

That's not true. IF the fighter did nothing on his action, I would count that as a failure, which means, that by succeeding on his check, he's helping the situation. If he fails than it's as if he did nothing. Ah well I guess I would rather have my first example rather than: DM: Okay you...

I think you're looking at it from a 3.5 perspective. In 4E there are a lot less skills and peoples proficiency with skills will be much closer together, which is why this system works. Plus each character is likely to have 1-4 skills that they are good at, and even still they can participate in...

Again, the bad thing about the first example is failure equals death. So sure you can sit around and wait to be crushed or do something. I don't need to set how long, I just set up the success/failures. That determines how long they have. If I set it at 6/4 and there are 5 players they basically...

Nothing says that these can't be allies?

I'm only going by what was presented by people that participated in Escape from Sembia, it's the only info we have. The DC's are set by the DM. Took me probably 1 minute to come up with the challenge, just longer to type it all out. The players are free to tackle it however they want.

I can't really say. When I ran a playtest (not this one) I had a player comment (negatively I might add) that it felt like we were already 5th level. In my mind that was a rousing success. Of course the second time I ran them through an entire module and the same player commented on how fun the...