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How is not providing an advantage the same as building in a mechanical disadvantage? If the group ignores the Warlord, thereby losing the advantage gained by a Warlord, both the group and the Warlord simply continue on as they did before, with the exception of the Warlord acting for themself -...

Nah. That would be as useless as statting out Chuck Norris; a futile exploration of infinite potentials.:p By the way, when Chuck Norris was asked how many push-ups he could do, his answer was "All of them.";)

Interesting. I never knew that. I just did a Google search and found there's an article on Wikipedia about it. Sounds kind of like what's done defensively in American Football: Man-to-Man coverage as opposed to Zone Defense. Though there does seem to be a Zonal Marking scheme in soccer also.

Yes. It's in an officially licensed third-party product called The Tome of Secrets, and endorsed by Paizo; though it doesn't seem to be official as far as Pathfinder Society Play (their Adventurers League). It was released in 2006. You should take a look at it. The Battlemaster seems almost...

Dude! That really wasn't necessary...

No problem. Good Day also. May our shared hobby bring you fun and friends.

Again, Wrong. It's specifically asking how many DO want one. If you're asking if I find accuracy in communication important, the answer would be yes. One, this response has nothing to do with the question I asked. Two, nowhere have I said that this thread's purpose was "only seeking advice...

Well, I just read it.:p And the older I get, my perception of time seems to change. I swear, 4 years ago can feel like yesterday.;)

Your ability to read other peoples minds is truly astounding. You have no idea if the devs are satisfied with the Battlemaster or not. If anything, since they said their polling has revealed fan issues with all of the Fighter archetypes, the evidence indicates the exact opposite.

Well that's the nature of game design as well as life.;) “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time.” However, it's not just the Battlemaster that seems to have fallen short...

That's certainly part of it. And yes, they did already print a mass battle system - or at least a playtestable version - on UA. I haven't delved into it very deeply, but I intend to explore how a Warlord can interact with those rules as a class feature.

No. Even the 4E fans that have been involved in the conversation (of which I am not a 4E fan), and especially in the Warlording the Fighter thread, have all said there were issues with the 4E version, and that an exact port of the 4E version to 5E is unfeasible and undesired. What all Warlord...

Please quote where anyone claimed a design failure in the Battlemaster because it doesn't perfectly match 4E? We'll wait...

I think for the same reason Misters Gygax and Arneson made D&D in the first place. Just as RPG's developed from the desire of Wargamers to run individual characters rather than whole armies, a Warlord is a leader character focused on interacting with a small group rather than a large army...

Some have expressed that having the extra stuff that a Fighter has - specifically Fighting Style, Second Wind, and Action Surge - feels inconsistent with the concept to them. I disagree to an extent, but I'm exploring multiple approaches in the concept we're fleshing out in the Warlording the...

Ahh...so you find the very debate ugly. Again, why are you here?

You complain that a Warlord telling another character what to do is unfair, despite the fact that isn't how it works. Then you complain that a character who doesn't do what a Warlord tells them is penalizing the Warlord. And you wonder why there are questions about your intentions here in...

Nobody is going after you for disagreeing. However, some have taken issue with how you have disagreed. Perhaps taking a more informed and civil mode of disagreement might result in a better experience here for both you and the rest of the community. No it isn't. This is a poll asking only...

Now that you mention it, your post and Manbearcat's examples are making me rethink Marking. I've shied away from using or incorporating the concept, but I might explore it a little now.

XP for using the Lions!!! Even better that the route example is Megatron! However, Johnson's not the Warlord; Matty is. Stafford is using Johnson to affect the movement of the defense; just like a D&D Warlord. I wish I could give extra XP!:D