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    D&D 5E (2014) Stealth & that big Rock!

    requiring line of sight and being seen clearly or unclearly are two completely different things. You're talking about different rules for different game elements with different requirements... Don't mix rules.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Stealth & that big Rock!

    Well that's when we get into specifics. If I can only see half your body (half cover) because of a small wall. Does that constitute you seeing me clearly or unclearly? Same for 3/4? I would say that any form of concealment would fall into being unclearly seen since by definition it's what...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Stealth & that big Rock!

    Right.. "I know you are, but what am I".. Let's go back to our teen years :) It's good though that you're slowly changing what you're saying. First it's "no that's not how it works" and now it's "there's enough wiggle room for DM interpretation that you could go either way". Seeking the...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Stealth & that big Rock!

    You're making the same mistakes as Saelorn. The text you just quoted is out-dated after the errata which was released to specifically change how stealth works. The rules text you quoted also specifies that you would only "usually" be seen if you come out of hiding AND approach another...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Stealth & that big Rock!

    Saelorn Yep, a claim that this was settled long ago when you're taking an extreme position toward a situation that doesn't even work the way you keep explaining it does? Tsk. Could you provide any evidence of this consensus? Who agreed to it? And even if you can, why are we now bound to...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Killing a Teammate

    To be clear: 2nd-level necromancy (ritual) Casting Time: 1 action Range: Touch Components: V, S, M (a pinch of salt and one copper piece placed on each of the corpse’s eyes, which must remain there for the duration) Duration: 10 days You touch a corpse or other remains. For the duration...
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    Did I do something wrong?

    Possibly, but if there's downright vocal anger at the table and you're running the game you can either warn all the players for code of conduct violations or get to the root of the problem. Giving warnings won't solve anything imo, it might in fact make things worse. But really the first step...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Stealth & that big Rock!

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    Did I do something wrong?

    Let us know how things work out :)
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    Did I do something wrong?

    Well then you have to ask yourself what's more important. Your own character, even though the rest of the group is not enjoying it and will likely continue not enjoying it or the enjoyment of everyone in the group collectively. That is of course unless you can discuss things openly and figure...
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    Did I do something wrong?

    From what you have explained it would seem that the problem revolves around your character being more powerful than theirs and it being able to cover multiple key roles within the group. You're simultaneously the best damage dealer, the tank and the healer. You fill multiple roles which means...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Stealth & that big Rock!

    There is no such thing as a surprise round in 5e. It's actually "While it can see you clearly" post errata. No one is saying DM's can't make rulings at the table. But what you're claiming here isn't about rulings. You're speaking in absolutes! Btw everyone should go see the new Star Wars.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Stealth & that big Rock!

    So you're ignoring half cover, 3/4 cover, partial concealment and so on as representative of being "unclearly seen". So in your game, you can only hide if you have total cover and full concealment which are explicit as you being "unseen". And if you hide using total cover you can then never...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Stealth & that big Rock!

    Sure I am. My physical location is still behind the rock. The cover doesn't vanish because I move my head. My body is still behind the rock. The act of lifting my head does not change that fact. Nor does me attacking you. Either way, I am still behind the rock, in my hiding spot. And...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Stealth & that big Rock!

    You have no grounds to restrict what the text means by usually to only be related to invisibility or other specific scenarios you designate. You simply don't have that authority. It's there to show that the rules for leaving hiding and approaching a target are not absolutes. You are treating...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Stealth & that big Rock!

    In general yes, and melee attacks as well.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Stealth & that big Rock!

    The errata fundamentally changed how hiding works in terms of requirements and changed how the core rules functioned in terms of being considered blinded when standing in complete darkness. This is beyond simple clarifications.... No one is saying you would get to deal sneak attack while...
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