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Not a lot of precedent, in particular...but it wouldn't be surprising either. The UA is more suggestive than the date, as is the parallel of Forge of the Artificer.

The timing plus Heroes of Horror UA is suggestive.

I feel like that criticism and praise apply to most campaign books that Chris Perkins worked on, being great smorgasbords of material with mofe or less weak prebaked "plots". Though I think that both the strengthes and weaknesses typical of his style are quite exaggerated in that particular...

Exactly. Thung is, people thought "Ocean's Eleven" when it is more like Raiders of the Lost Ark: the NPC antagonists also have the PC extremely outgunned, so going in hot and heavy is unlikely to work, so some sneaking and skill based encounters are going to be the path forward...which is what I...

The thing people miss about Dragon Heist is thst the Villains are heisting, and the players are like the Avengers here.

They lost it, Dark Horse has it now and this is the first one.

It's not the appearance, so much as the interesting dichotomy of a dexteritous person who is against type, snd how that could be utilized as a tool of deception. It would be like having a (relatively) short basketball player like the great Muggy Bogues and never using thst contrast in a story...

Well, I don't mean that everything needed to be about her body type...but compared to the example of Chel Vanin from the Wheel of Time, who used his deceptive appearance as part of his Rogue toolkit... I dunno, the characters just felt like they could do with more development, lots of missed...

A good 64 more pages, like Planescape got, would have really sealed the deal. A gazateer if various Astral Spheres similar to Van Richten's Guide detailing various Domains of Dread would have been lit. But not having quite all the content I wanted didn't take away from what was there.

People get weird about the Dragon Heist thing: it isn't as Heist-y as the Golden Vault advebtures, but it does have a bunch of urban skulduggery. Good enough for government work. Icewind Dale does have a ton of weird survival horror aspects. Spelljammer was good, but could have been better...

It wasn't the marketing, it was Perkins talking about his design plans...he is gone, but that isn't likely to be something that changes in the next couple of years of product Venger is rising.

Thing is, there us already a vague abd undefined "Cult of Chaos" originally behind the Caves of Chaos...and Venger and the League of Malevolence would fit in. And we were told those characters were part of a longer product plan.

I still think Venger is going to be the BBEG in the Starter Set...but we'll find out soon, I guess?? It would make sense out of how prominent he is in the DMG.

One of my main criticisms of the novel, which I would categorize as "kind of fun" and "not terrible" overall...is that in the book, she could have been built like a supermodel, and it wouldn't have changed anything in the characterization?

Big plus, frankly.

Given Robert Jordan's interests and style, I would not be at all surprised if Vanin was based on some real historical archetype, too. Large people can be nimble and sneaky.

Based on prior years, I think they will begin talking about it after Dragon Delves drops. They usually talk about books about 3 or 4 months in advance. Dollars to donuts it is a Ravenloft supplement, similar to how Fprge of the Srtificer supplements Rising from the Last War.

Still, probably not unrelated, if it is goijg through a toy distribution channel.

Yeah, they recategotuzed the core books as toys...which seems to have been about limiting Amazon's undercutting FLGS (and WotC direct sales...) pricing.

I backed the KS and have all the books, dice and other stuff. Haven't found a chance to play it, but my 8 year old is obsessed with The Last Airbender and is interested, so I think we'll make a go of it. The mechanics are a bit dense and...lingo-y? Interested to see how it works in play, based...