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This is funny, because I see the same exact behavior from the pro-4th ed guys, and not just in this forum but in the General Forum as well. Anything less than 100% agreement and/or fawning admiration for the changes being made draws some pretty snooty, elitist and unkind remarks. If WotC came...

Where might this particular "Buffalo River" be found? I think I might have spent a long few minutes trapped in an upturned canoe wedged under a low-hanging tree branch in this same river once.

So, when a DM doesn't let a player pick and choose what magic items to let into HIS game, it's nerfing? Sounds like "player entitlement" gone horribly awry to me. DM: "Ok Jim, let me see your new character sheet" *looks over Jim's character sheet* DM: "What's this? A 'Ring of Immunity to All...

Is anyone else reading this thread and wondering how a King got to BE King (and stay that way) if he can't muster enough resources to deal with a group of 4 tax-evading, law-flaunting, so-called "heroes"? Low to mid-level PCs are hired to take care of threats to the town/fief/county/shire...

Are they "disinclined to acquiesce"? These the same WotC guys that did the MMIII?? Um... ok.... :confused:

Wow, you are quite the visionary. Is there ANY 4th ed concept you: A) dislike B) haven't already been using C) think is not a vast improvement over the current rules or D) didn't think of first? Sheesh.

Believe it or not, some people like to hunt, (or target shoot, or defend their homes, family, property and themselves) but don't really like borderline soft-core porn. Go figure.

Yes, it's a female. There are b&w illustrations of the same character inside the module that make it obvious. I don't know where you get your dungeons, but I've seen a ton of adventures with toilets in them. Rappan Athuk comes immediately to mind here. I also specifically recall a Dungeon...

So, your arguement against the crafting rules now suddenly only applies to low level item makers. Moving the goalposts are we? You implied that clerics don't have to spend xp to heal, and they do. And I have the benefit of actually DMing for a group in which every caster has at least 1 type of...

Except, of course, the cleric just might be making scrolls and potions and wonderous items himself. Oh, and cleric healing DOES cost xp (Restoration/Raise Dead/Ressurection). The fighter is putting him/herself between the fragile wizard and danger, thus is more likely to die and lose xp that...

Exactly. Lower level PCs get more xp in proportion to higher level PCs in the same party. The wizard may be a level behind the fighter, but now he has a wand of fireballs. I'd say that the wand more than makes up for the xp lag in the short term, and in the long term, the xp will even out anyway.

"You'll get nothing and like it!"

I'm going to ignore the fact that your "90% of games" stat is pure fabrication on your part and say that I believe you full well know the difference between advancing in a class, any class, through the accumulation of xp is different from using those earned xp to advance in a class that, as...

You mean the courtesy you displayed when you told a poster above "I don't care if you play 4th ed"? Or the one where you called the people posting on this thread "Geeks"? Why is it "fanboy" is an insult but "geek" is not? Again, who determines these things? The offended party? In that case, I'm...

I was unaware that I, personally, had called any specific person a name. Please indicate where I have. Wrong. 100% wrong. Characters gain xp, and thereby levels, by overcoming challenges. Traps are challenges. Puzzles are challenges. Role-playing awards are too. It's entirely possible to use...

Flumphs.

Bingo. And I don't care if the article didn't specifically say you kill somone and hand their soul off to an infernal patron, the very fact that the class as they have presented it gains power via pacts with EVIL patrons makes it an evil class to me. Yeah, you can do other things with it, and...

He didn't ask what the outcome was, he asked if it ever happened, which it has. That case was absurd on it's face, but in the US, anyone can sue anyone else for any reason. It's up to the judge to decide if the lawsuit has merit or not.

"Your opinion doesn't count!" No worse than your speculation that Warlocks aren't an evil-aligned class. Judging by the article, they are evil all the way with a captial "E". They mentioned feral and shadow in passing and suddenly, with no evidence whatsoever, that makes them non-evil? Now...

Not Marilyn Manson (but I wouldn't hold my breath after Asa Coon's performance in Ohio this week), but someone did sue Judas Priest in the 80's over a teen's suicide. Ozzy too, IIRC.