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I understand what you are saying. What I am saying is that the delimiter of subclass makes the population only representative of characters subclass they will reach 100% of that defined population. This throws off your comparisons which is (I am guess) the point of your distress. That doesn't...

Ok, then progress was made to a common point but we are still adjacent not aligned. As I under stand this. "Subclass Distribution (Active Characters)" for you means "Subclass Distribution (active characters with or without subclass)" to exclude you "Subclass Distribution (active characters...

I think it doesn't, which is the whole point of my previous post and my last question. (Just responding to this because its a more concise post explaining our difference in views. I am hoping you answer that in full and we can drop to following that having removed redundant replies.)

I don't disagree with you that this is our point of contention, I brought it up again to bring it back to that since if we talk about what we agree on, no forward movement can be made. I understand you disagree with it but it is the core of the discussion at this point and if you saying its not...

You are correct. I am not concise. A personal flaw of mine, of which I am very aware. Between me and FrogReaver the posts seem to have split. I will try to bring them back together. While FrogReaver is not wrong in his reply, I also think a lot of the points where basically the same argument and...

Class is a descriptor but it is also a Delimiter because if you put "Active Characters Distribution" you could divide them by races, classes, subclasses, levels, feats, melee/casters...etc. Making the title "Class" delimits that we are only and specifically talking about Active Characters in the...

I agree with your last sentence I bolded. However, I disagree that oranges are included. Apples is not only the delimiter its the primary delimiter which is why its brought up first an as statement of the division. "Apple Distribution (Fresh Fruit)" aka "Subclass Distribution (Active...

Your example. I said multiple times we should move away from it. The Distribution of subclasses requires a subclass. A Class that does not have a subclass is just a class and would be covered under "Class Distribution" I have answered multiple times that if you want class and subclass you...

Can't have it both ways. If YOU define clear and colorless as the same thing then act like me treating you as saying the same things is wrong. You defined that. They only reason for you to change the words while having stated the meaning is the same is because your trying to use word play to...

Because I disagree that colorless exists and you defined colorless as the something as clear. I explained multiple times that clear is not equal to colorless. You have clear marbles but colorless marbles do not exist. So I will not except colorless as a valid example because I can see marbles...

I have said multiple times I don't agree that colorless truly exists. Your substituting one visual aspect for another then calling them the same thing. If you can see it, it has some color since color is light in your eyes reflected by the object. If an object could not be seen with the eye then...

Class is a descriptor and a delimiter. They are not mutually exclusive.

Sure. I am good with that train of thought. To my mind, my answer already covered that. with this post. You said, "Also to anyone that cares: Colorless marbles are referred to as Clear." which means your not saying with color and without color, your defining colorless = clear. That is...

Sure but what of that is inherently thuggish? Thugs tend to be unskill brutes. I REALLY like the subclass abilities but I don't think the rogue class abilities fit it well. A Fighters fighting style, second wind, action surge, martial archetypes, extra attack, and Indomitable, armor...

I would prefer a wisdom save to resist the fear as wisdom is generally the willpower stat. Charisma is usually a creative manipulation skill/save. But I very much like the idea of an "As written" strength intimidation check on a strength based check using static DC. Overall I like it too its...

In fact, I would and did use "where applicable" above. The interesting thing is that if you add that it implies that it is not always applicable and so would add the formally implied as omitted classes without subclass back in. "Subclass Distribution (Active Characters)" - break down of class...

Clear = Transparent Opaque (not able to be seen through; not transparent.) Clear is not the opposite of color its the opposite of opaque. Remember this: Yep... your picked an argument that is vague and abstract to get me to agree with something I don't believe then justify your argument on...

Back from Valentines day with the Miss, but I found time to update my answer above. Also, we had those marbles in vases in my house too... funny thing is when you stack them enough you realize they have a hue, just as the ones in the picture above are I suspect white when you put enough of...

This is what I had stated earlier based on your issues but I am in a rush so its horribly unrefined and not really what you are looking for just a cut and paste. "Most Popular Class/Subclass combinations (Active single class characters including those without subclass, only from players with...

Clear = Transparent Opaque (not able to be seen through; not transparent.) Clear is not the opposite of color its the opposite of opaque. Remember this: Yep... your picked an argument that is vague and abstract to get me to agree with something I don't believe then justify your argument on...