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Well, I don't have any at hand. I can ask for a detailed bit... One thing: I understand you, and others, don't like that freeform combat play excerpt; I do personally, but anyway keep in mind it was an impromptu exchange via chat to show the other person how they managed that. I don't wanna...

Just read this from one of the FKR bloggers on discord... I tend to float somewhere on the border of the diceless frontier most of the time. After several years of doing so, I am increasingly comfortable with an authoritative ruling and moving forward to the next decision point. Most often, if...

I think I agree. The scenarios I'm referring to are quite sandboxy, while having a final goal of "resolving it".

I find it useful to start with a D&D/Cthulhu module, or scenario, as a basis and then follow players proclivities, implicit or explicit, adding my own twist, making the game more personal, see where it goes, while having the main "mission" still running in the background, to which fall back in...

This, I agree with, even if I'd look at it from an FKR perspective. I could use your exact words to pitch an FKR game to people. I probably will ;)

If it was me, please excuse my poor choice of words.

I' been wondering how the Gumshoe skill points expenditure would fit in there. Putting aside points spent in order to increase chance on D6 until auto-success. So, comparing static numbers would be Karma res. But, actually spending those points? (For various reasons, like finding more clues...

Ok. I see a difference, though, in Rpgs in general and particularly in FKR, since one can't really argue about rules, the discussion with the referee/Gm is central, is part of the game, I dare say The game itself. So, not something to be exploited, but to be engaged with fully. I would dare...

Ah ah! Pathfinder is an easy target for those sorts of arguments, anyway. Yes in my experience gaming the Gm is an art form at certain tables. Does that issue take us to the Neutral Referee thesis, then?

Shadowrun, Traveller, Cyberpunk, Call of Cthulhu, AD&D, OD&D have been played FKR/freeform/ultralight over the years... as far as I know. I guess that's not much of a reaction against heavy rule-books, instead more of a love for those settings. Runequest FKR? I guess Yes, why not? Cubes to...

Yeah, but the point, to me, is that if you want combat fiction-full, with diegetic, in-fiction harm and consequences, that is the way to go. FKRers say also: develop rules as you go if you need 'em, or borrow from the tons of existing rulesets.

@Manbearcat Yeah, fascinating, ah ah! Btw I guess that was an improvised exchange in a chat, nonetheless...... yeah That is basically how I handled combat in my Gumshoe game, to be honest. Sometimes asking the player to roll a D6, eventually spending skill points.

@pemerton Just to be clear, when I say "players looking at their character sheet" I mean: looking for numbers, rules related minutia, "What can I do know?" moments when scrolling a long list of stuff and modifiers. Extra diegetic stuff. "Lets see if I have 1 more point to add to that roll"...

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And I, myself Gm, would not run it as such, as an FKR "Play worlds... bla bla", if there were procedures to follow, rules to resolute, in place.

I don't think so. But, again, it is me answering, I don't blog about FKR. See above my EDIT of last reply to you

Yes. :D Edit: Yeah, I think so. If your table relies on numbers of dice to inform their choices, and there is a formalized set of player facing rules they expect to follow in order to proceed in the game, then, as I understand it, it is not FKR.

That's a step from rules medium/heavy to ultra light. There is another step from formalized ultra light to FKR. Not necessarily because it needs even less rules, but because rules are not what is shaping the game a priori.

I'll try. Do players need to take into account extra diegetic, out of fiction stuff, looking at their char sheets, rules, follow procedures, in order to play the game? If yes, then no FKR.

@Aldarc Fair criticism. I understand your points. I just happened to read about FKR when I was already going in that direction in my personal cycle of development as a Gm, looking on the net for ideas to support that. So I'm just sharing my point of view.