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  1. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    Pemerton, I've already apologized by my harsh words twice . I won't do it again, and in fact you are the most passionate and emotional here taking as personal insults every criticism made to your game. I can take a critic, and I've already made my excuse twice too (I'm argentinian, thus I'm not...
  2. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    I never realized until this conversation that some words were taboo in rpg forums. Maybe because, being from a country and language foreigner to this forum (and in English forums in general), I wasn't present in the major hostilities of the Edition Wars. I've read the JA article this very year...
  3. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    Actually, I call the AEDU mechanics "Vancian for All" (It kinda sounds like an election promise). I really do not buy the encounter mechanics also, it's vancian mechanics in a tigher frame, but without any logical assumption. Encounters, as you said, are a nebulous concept after all. What...
  4. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    Here is an explanation about symmetry and balance that has nothing to do with D&D.
  5. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    I will keep saying that one of the most impressive improvements of D&D 5th Edition is the treatment of the warrior class, specially the Variant Human, who shines in the first levels, but that keeps pacing pretty straightforward through the levels. And that it recognizes his combat role as a...
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  7. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    "I bring the character, I bring the strenght, and I bring the Power! FUAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" Hehe, it is even a house rule for our fighters to scream ¡FUA! when we use Second Wind.
  8. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    Also, I kinda like the Second Wind, and I relate it to the "FUAAAA" effect. If you don't know Spanish, he says something like "I cannot take it anymore, but I'm going to bring the FUA" "the FUA means to give the extra, what it projects to the Universe". It is a funny drunken man, but I really...
  9. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    But I was actually the person who brought the horse first in this conversation, and I assume that there were always a degree of dissociation. I assume it in 3rd edition, I assume it in 2nd edition, and I assume it in 5th edition (see the Superiority Dice argument). And, by fact, my main concern...
  10. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    I quoted your statement about how Inspiration can be implemented in 4th edition. I read some of your links. Also other ones that defend 4th edition prior to that. And? As I said earlier, and I think you agree, the mechanics permeates the game, but also the story that unfolds. And I don't want to...
  11. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    False. Even in AD&D there is combat rules that define conditions which are independant from magic. Restrain, blinded, immobilized, kneeling and sit down, grappled, knocked prone, knocked unconscious, mounted, disarmed, and Called Shots (that rely on specificly located wounds, with specific...
  12. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    Try it, Bedrock. It's truly a great game: intuitive, immersive, easy, balanced. But I certainly miss the players rules of spell investigation that I liked in AD&D. I maybe can implement a house rule to that, basing me in the guides of the DMG (after all, it is possible to add new spells to the...
  13. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    Actually, the backgrounds are back to AD&D (the game that you seem to dislike) kits. Even with the skills (in AD&D NWP) incorporated. It is certainly not a 4th edition innovation, although the game actually can crave of this. And as I said earlier, many things of 4th edition are good, when...
  14. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    This is a valid position. The rules don't have to break when they are pushed (they are, after all, like physics laws in own our realm). But you will never see me complain about that. I complain about the power creeping factor, about dissociative mechanics that had nothing to do with a story...
  15. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    And that is why reactions are so "vitriolic". So, other opinions are subjective, but yours aren't? Anyone that does not like 4th edition is a moron with no value at all? Because it's different. We are dinosaurs. We can't appreciate difference. Wow. I don't really think that discussing with you...
  16. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    Just because Newton published Philosophiæ naturalis principia mathematica in 1687 does't mean that gravity wasn't around from the Big Bang. You could name a "rationalization", and "not a reason", but that, in fact does not stop gravity to function. You can call it whatever you want, even...
  17. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    I certainly agree with that. Dissociative is something purely mechanical with no in-world explanation or reason. Abstraction is putting mathematics to work for science/ gaming/ etc; yes, the character won't probably know about them, but he can explain what he do more or less accurately. It is...
  18. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    Thank you for the support, Wicht. Sometimes it's difficult to me to properly write in English, and maybe I'm being unintentionally rude (although in my first post I was rude, given the situation of being indirectly called dinosaur; but we Argentinans have a long tradition of being aggresive, not...
  19. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    Uhm, I think that I'm a bit confused. I do see a vitriolic response in the original Tequila Sunrise post, that I had already quoted. About my language, Manbearcat, it was basically a reaction to what I percieved as a pedantic prick saying "If you don't like 4th edition, you are a dinosaur. I'm...
  20. Erechel

    Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D

    I'm glad that the conversation is civilized. I note your points but note that I'm not defending 3rd edition. In certain aspects, was an improve from AD&D (better maths, I do like feats as a customization option, etc.) but it came with his own problems. As I said, I tolerate it, and in some...
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