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  1. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    It's enforceable. JG will never see that money. It's going to be escrowed by a neutral third party.
  2. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    One of my fears was that, if Goodman dropped CSIO, it would be picked up by a bad actor. Goodman is paying JG for the licenseand ensuring that the funds go to the backers. It's not a perfect solution, but it's as close as we're gonna get. And, to me, it is acceptable. YMMV.
  3. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    I, for one, am now mollified. 1. Judges Guild will not benefit. 2. Backers will ne made whole. 3. Gamers will get to see CSIO, updated for modern gamers' sensibilities. I appreciate how difficult this had to have been for Joe Goodman. I will support this project, to put my money where my...
  4. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    Bob Sr. was not implicated in any of the racist, anti-semite, Holocaust denial nonsense. He was, by all accounts, a great person.
  5. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    To further complicate things, someone purporting to be Walt Bledsaw, brother of Bob Bledsaw II, has urged people not to back the project. I have no idea if this is true or not, but he has commented on two different YouTube videos about this: "I am the 3rd son of Bob Bledsaw sr. .Bob Jr. Usurped...
  6. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    For me, it was Ken St. Andre. T&T is my favorite game, and that one really hurt. I know, I know, parasocial relationships and all that. But I was legit bummed out for days. (To be clear and avoid a derail, I am not saying St. Andre is on the level of the Bledsaws, or Barker. He isn't. But he's...
  7. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    I can tell you that JG is, or was, operating at least one Ebay storefront under a false name. I ordered a JG book on the secondary market a few years ago, from a seller who in no way appeared affiliated with them. I do not, and did not, want to give them any money. It arrived addressed from The...
  8. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    Yes but if you were to be vocally anti-packaging (or anti-EXCESS packaging, a good cause), and to try to raise awareness and drum up support for that, probably nobody here would try to convince you how stupid and futile your concerns and efforts are. And if they did, I'd personally react to them...
  9. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    I knew it was only a matter of time before this argument arrived. I saw someone say on The Big Purple, "There is a distinct difference between 'living in the world means sometimes, wittingly or not, one interacts with and even benefits those who might have horrific views' and "'intentionally...
  10. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    Hard disagree. I'm not saying that this is the entirety of the problem, but it's a large part of it.
  11. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    I do not believe Joe Goodman is a bigot. I have not said that he is a bigot. I do believe he has made a bad choice about who to do business with. I also will not support any venture that benefits Judges Guild, period. There is nothing selective about this, and with all due respect, you don't...
  12. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    And social consequences for being a bigot are lower than they've been in decades. So, no, it's not surprising that between 2016 and 2023, there was an explosion of hate. We have normalized the tolerance of bigotry, and we are paying a price.
  13. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    Emphasis mine. I appreciate that this is a spectrum, and that some can be saved. But there are those who aren't, and may never be ready.
  14. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    Klan membership in 1965 numbered 40,000. In 2016, maybe 3,000. Racism can be fought. Social stigma works. Edit: I'm sure there are a host of factors at play here. But a major factor is certainly public opinion being largely against open racism (whatever the institutional reality may be). In...
  15. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    I wouldn't hit a dog, but I'd ostracize a bigot. I have a greater concern for the well-being of non-bigots than I do for the rehabilitation prospects of the hateful. Ad a former addict and bigot, if someone wants, and asks for, help with either thing, I would help. But I'm not gonna go reaching...
  16. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    My post wasn't about vengeance, karma,, or anything similar. Merely protecting society from those who would do it harm. In most places, you can't be openly racist at your job. Because their are consequences. Social consequences work, too. I don't care if bigots wanna hang out with other bigots...
  17. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    Counterpoint: there were actually no satanists that posed a threat to children, but there are actually bigots who pose a very real threat to not only children, but everyone.
  18. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    Frog God had a contract, fat lot of good that did. The problem is you have to sue to enforce a contract. Frog God was unwilling. I imagine Goodman Games would be, too, since it wouldn't even be their money. I think it's more likely that the contracts were sighed years ago, and contain no such...
  19. Some Dude

    Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

    According to the Tegel Manor product page on Frog God's site, JG was "contractually" onligated to use Tegel Manor proceeds to make good on CSIO. We all know how that turned out... Goodman may not have a contract, and if they do, are they gonna sue JG for breach of contract over money they won't...
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