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  1. TwoSix

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    But there is an absolute scale of agency. That was my point. We, as limited humans, often tend to ignore larger scales when we're focused on a limited subset of activity. If your focus is on trad-style DM-arbitrated gaming, then sure, sandboxes are high agency.
  2. TwoSix

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I think the sticking point is "the world around them is doing stuff". I think that's really a critical difference between the orientations of play. What the "world around them is doing stuff" means, from my perspective (and from reading various sandbox games oriented books, like Kevin...
  3. TwoSix

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It's just common sense. If a player can't do something in the rules because the DM has made a setting decision, the player has less agency. Full stop. In a standard 5e game, I can make a PC that is a tiefling. If the DM says his sandbox game only has 4 races (human, elf, orc, and...
  4. TwoSix

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It's being framed that way because that's what matters, certainly from my personal perspective, where trad play is just one option among many. Is a trad sandbox higher player agency than a trad adventure module? Absolutely. But there's a ceiling to the amount of authority possible to be...
  5. TwoSix

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    That's why I said "some of us". There are obviously multiple axes of distinction. "Casual" vs "intense" is but one.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Sure. Which is we should also assume that for conversations on forums, the audience has self-selected to be less “casual” and more intense.
  8. TwoSix

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Amazing how we can have 6,000 posts and not cover everything! :)
  9. TwoSix

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I think a pretty core distinction between some of us is the assumption that we’re looking for play this is less “casual/hangout” (although that’s OK at times) and instead play is done with more intentionality.
  10. TwoSix

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I’ve done that as well, although it was a while ago. It’s why I’m a stickler now for how not running games that are more “high-concept” and have a starting rationale for PC cooperation.
  11. TwoSix

    D&D 5E (2024) You Can Now Pre-order Eberron: Forge of the Artificer

    Challenging. Maybe as 2-color pairs or 3-colors to capture some of the complexity. It's an interesting exercise.
  12. TwoSix

    D&D 5E (2024) Should a general Adventurer class be created to represent the Everyman?

    Kind of a joke-class, but definitely playable. https://www.gmbinder.com/share/-MxWTgY2klVUnHpH22uH
  13. TwoSix

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I'll continue to use the definition I think is most accurate, thanks. People can adapt or they're going to get railroaded.
  14. TwoSix

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Particularly important to how I normally play is that when "Prove it" occurs, and they don't, that's not a fail state. That's just an opportunity for the character to grow and change.
  15. TwoSix

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I mean, I'd say any RPG that isn't either solo or 1 GM - 1 player should have either explicit or implicit assumptions that the player characters are going to have some rationale to work together. I know that some tables do the "you roll your character up by yourself, and you all meet for the...
  16. TwoSix

    D&D 5E (2024) Potential other "rules expansion" books

    You say all these things like they're bad. :)
  17. TwoSix

    D&D 5E (2024) Potential other "rules expansion" books

    I mean, a multiversal focus does implicitly support DM's making their own worlds, as long as they have some tangential connection to the broader multiverse. Toril can always be "Prime-616", as it were, but each table can have their own "Prime-XXXXX".
  18. TwoSix

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    For sure. Apathetic to play, or "just showing up to roll dice and be there" players are a very large contingent, and also work much better with stronger DM authority. One of my tables right now has 9 players (not counting me as DM), all of whom are fairly casual, and I wouldn't even consider...
  19. TwoSix

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    AI being inconsistent doesn't mean the AI is wrong. It means the term is used inconsistently. Although I don't think the usage is inconsistent, it's more of a case where there's a more broad reading and a more specific reading of the term. Language evolves because a person or persons makes a...
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