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By "No proof means no action", you have the potential to not punish an unjust act; however, "The accusation is the evidence" being the standard, you are choosing the potential of being the one committing an unjust act.

3 things: 1) So you do believe that the accusation is the evidence? 2) It's the "clowns" like me, who have been falsely accused of something with no recourse, that want to make sure that "The accusation is the evidence" is not the standard that exists anywhere else. 3) As the director of a...

But you're OK with punishing the accused on an unsubstantiated accusation?

Your doubling down on your non-sequitur proves that my assessment of your stupidity is correct. So I will put you on "ignore" and be done with you.

I understand that you're a little bit stupid. But you want to explain your comment?

OK, I'll bite. What are you talking about?

Actuall, we are talking about accusations of harassment and the desire for some people, like the person who wrote the blog post that this started with, to have accusations declared as proof.

I think there is a posse of angry women going around demanding that accusations be treated as evidence. Hell, a few months ago, Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn testified before the United Nations literally saying that people making accusations of harassment shouldn't have to prove them.

Not necessarily. I would also accept neutral witnesses, or simply watching the accused more closely to see for myself what is going on. What I would not accept is "She said you're harassing her, so you have to go;" the standard that many are pushing for.

Because it wasn't a criminal prosecution, but a family court. Because it doesn't have the authority to actually send people to jail, and because it technically was not a criminal court, the normal checks and balances given to the accused do not apply, just like traffic court. When I demanded to...

I believe that it is better for a harasser to get away with it than to punish an innocent person. It is always better to allow people to avoid justice than to create a system where you punish the innocent along with the guilty. To put it another way, if it could be positively guaranteed that...

Yes, I do have proof. I have the court transcripts where she admitted that she lied and that I never hurt her. I also have the state law that says that domestic violence accusations are exempt from the laws against perjury. My point is not that all men have been falsely accused, but that it's...

The burden of proof is - and should ALWAYS be - on the accuser, not the accused. If there isn't enough proof to say that more likely than not harassment happened, nothing. Every time. Frankly, no. That's why the "innocent until proven guilty" standard has been accepted by most societies...

No, the literal point she was asserting was that every man who didn't agree with her that harassment is everpresent and requires drastic action is either a terrorist or a coward; further, she was asserting as fact the assertion that people disagreeing with her merely proves that the gaming...

Not all of them. But at least one - the person who wrote this blog post in the first place. Let me flip the question - are you calling every man who says he was falsely accused liars?

Well, I have been falsely accused of domestic violence. So it happened at least once.

I picked Lifetime because they are notorious for making movies about The Innocent Woman and The Evil Men Who Are Conspiring To Destroy Her. They have been caught lying about actual events. As the saying goes, incredible claims require incredible evidence. Is it possible that she is telling the...

The assertion that any accusation will be treated as proven fact. Being kicked out of a convention and arrested because someone overhears me talking to someone else and mishears what I say. Being falsely accused by someone with an ax to grind and having no recourse, or even the ability to defend...

I dispute the premise that it is as widespread as claimed. I dispute that drastic action needs to be taken. I reject the assertion that we should take the view of "The accusation is the evidence." And further, if you feel it's a waste of time to get lost in the details, then it shouldn't be...

But the demand is being made to automatically believe the claims that are made; "The accusation is the evidence" is literally the battle cry here. The idea being pushed is that even questioning claims of harassment, no matter how outrageous, is proof of sexism. One of the bigger rpg boards...