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At least you are being honest there. I can respect that.

...he says in the face of the post, just two above his, where someone pointed out exactly why this is exactly right, yet somehow the opposite of the agenda he's pushing... You should totally get yourself onto the WotC Advisory Board so you can bring this alternative fact to their attention!

The anecdote offered was the champion never rolled a crit. Not that he never hit with his attacks. You attempted to move the goalpost. Not cool.

But you can't do that! You can't make a club into a vorpal weapon!

Dunno. You are the one lumping people into groups. You tell me. All I've been championing is, "One man's bug...". I don't see you disagreeing with that sentiment.

Would you say the wizard class sucks, if one went a whole session with every enemy making their saves against his spells? See, I just don't think that metric is all that valid method for determining if a class is good.

If you are going to try and chastise me for being off topic, its going to have to go down on a spoonful of salt, until I see like being directed by you to the other parties in question. Parties no less off topic than I. Besides, you should know as well as anyone that neither topic drift, nor...

Once more, with feeling. The 'universal fact' I have been addressing specifically with the other poster, is that it is, in their eyes, a 'universal fact' that the feat is broken and needs to be changed.

Interesting. I too have seen all three in play and did not come to the same conclusion. The variations on perceptions and expectations sure can be fascinating. Good thing that's not all champions get, I guess?

Awesome analysis. I think this is a great snapshot of how some people tend to jump in, making snap knee-jerk reactions to things they don't like, at first glance. Enacting swift theory-crafted, white-room changes only to find they did more harm than good. Exacerbating whatever issue they think...

If you think that was the "fact" I was referring, to WRT the other poster, I'm not sure how I did that. I was talking about some posters' attempts to present their opinions of a feats disruptability as being some kind of universally experienced truth. Although, to your point here, is there a...

I am here to convince people like you that not everyone thinks the feat needs fixin': in spite of your repeated claims that present your opinion as a universal fact.

To be fair, I think "challenge" and "adversary" are very different things. Wouldn't want to be misconstrued. I believe you challenge players, not characters. But specifically in an adversarial DM playstyle, it is important for the DM to remember to be an adversary to the characters, not the...

"Adversarial DM" is a valid playstyle. As long as everyone at the table has buy-in, all good AFAIC. Heck, I'd say that playstyle has its roots in the early origins of the RPG hobby. Not by bag these days, but who am I to judge? However, given that, I do not believe such a playstyle should...

...in your opinion. Sorry, its just one of my pet peeves. I'm curious if you think you might have this same opinion, should WotC, down the road, release a whole new sub/class including Expertise to some degree or another (even if its just with a single skill)?

If you don't wish to address the OP's topic, and instead want to continue to harp on how WotC needs to issue errata on the feat, or that WotC sucks, or whatever other un-useful complaining (hint: not the topics of this thread), then perhaps you could find someplace more appropriate to waive your...

...says the poster continuing to try to steer away the discussion from the matter at hand. Ironic.

You think these feats are power creep? Just think how much more power you get when you make 2nd level!

And because my houserule idea is applied at character creation, it obviates the issue of someone with expertise potentially losing out of the benefit from the feat. The player simply has another expertise slot to put elsewhere and takes this free feat instead. Win-win. I'm liking it more.

Wow, really? My post was the first claim on the subject and others are simply showing me where I'm wrong? No, I don't think you have the right of it. The claim being fronted, that I was specifically responding to, was that GWM is a must-have feat. Period. Full stop. My argument, that you just...