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That is it I've had enough! Time to ask WOTC what part of a human (oid) body that hits something else is not natural or a weapon. I'll let you know what they have to say. Here is what I sent in Human (oid) natural attacks and improved natural attack There is a great amount of debate in my...

Ummmm read what you quoted you wouldn't have to dodge timeless body makes you immune to all attacks

You know I honestly have never understood why a human (oid) didn't get a claw claw bite or equivalent attack having been in many a bar brawl in real life I assure you humans have those espescially if they file and harden their fingernails. Improved unarmed strike would seem to me to make it...

I whole heartedly agree. I come here (though rarely) exactly for that reason. I love the level of actual DEBATE and exchange of ideas that exists here. I am of the group that (in this instance) can completely see Hypersmurf's point. I think it breaks the "keep it simple silly" mantra that I...

Given my real life I'ld gladly switch...... asuming I could bring my gaming group with me. 8)

But then the exchange of viewpoints being held currently is settled unless I missed something of course. 1) Allowing that all bodies save that of the warforged are more or less natural and can be used to hit stuff most creatures have a natural attack that can be used as a weapon to hit stuff...

Sure telling a regular untrained humanoid that their body is either un-natural, or that they can not hit stuff with parts of it seems silly. A monk can merely do so better because of training (ie improved unarmed strike et al) I suppose then that begs the question "Do the effects of improved...

I consider it clarification to remove ambiguity not add to it. My fist is part of my natural body, my fist is being used as a weapon. It is therefore both natural and a weapon. As a side note I am quite certain that this debate will not reach a conclusion til Wizards, and/or the author of said...

Sorry Hype, it's my contention that you and your ilk are splitting hairs. A monk's unarmed strike is considered both manufactured and natural weapons. You would have a far easier time convincing me they are not manufactured weapons (and erego not valid recipients for "magic weapon" or the...

1) Check Monks unarmed strike = natural weapon 2) Check my monk's fists, elbows, legs, feet, etcetera all parts of her body 3) Check a monk is considered armed when using unarmed strikes and does not provoke attacks of oppurtunity as normal humanoids would 4)And check a Monk's unarmed strike...

I'll agree having a clear concept at creation is a great idea and makes playing easier. That having been said while I have managed to keep skills, feats, and ability points to a character map personality is still elusive.

An orc baby or a human baby ? What about baby mind-flayers that you have just turned into orphans that will die without someone/thing caring for them ? What if the poor you feed end up doing terrible things because now they have the strength (or didn't die of starvation) ? I am firmly in the...

I dunno. I know a fair number of "jock athletic types" that smell bad and abuse their wives. NBA basketball players probably shouldn't run around doing drugs and having questionable sexual contact with female fans, It would probably be a huge boon to the clergy if priests et al stopped abusing...

http://www.humpin.org/mst3kdd/ Sorry I just saw it and thought people herew ould get a laugh.

Those of us that have actual "martial" training and/or "military" training are going to fair better than others.

In a heartbeat to faerun Probably wind up being a CG or CN Barbarian and the wife would likely end up being a LN something or other.

Those are good points I see craft and profession differently then most I guess. TO ME. Craft requires something "tangible" (that you can see, pick up, and manipulate) to be made. So definately if you are writing the poem down then that is some kind of craft. But if it is just "in your head"...

And it isn't regeneration as per any "ring of regeneration" that I have ever seen. It's more like fast healing. Nothing is mentioned in the descriptor text about regrowing severed body parts/heads

Celtavian and Pax (I only signal you two out because it has been a while since i read the whole thread and can't recall anyone else as vehemently anti-VoP as you two). You seem to be just glossing over the fact that (and I'll use my case since I know it) My VoP monk who is SUPPOSED to be...

Wow I have only ever seen one other thread on here filled with such venom. and that got a mod involved in telling the offender to calm down. I wonder when the warning to Mecra is coming.